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The Worst Mistake In Suicide Squad That Everyone Missed

bySergio Pereira
6 years ago
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The Worse Mistake In Suicide Squad That Everyone Missed

It’s been nearly a year since David Ayer’s Suicide Squad divided fans (yet made a ton of money at the box office and inspired 2016’s Halloween costumes). While the movie had several moments of WTF, there’s one glaring mistake that nearly everyone missed involving Jared Leto’s Joker.

The Worse Mistake In Suicide Squad That Everyone Missed

You see, Suicide Squad Joker’s gangster look drew the ire of fans. However, his metal grill was something that we could all get behind, particularly after Ayer described the reasoning for it. In an interview promoting the film, Ayer said the following of his creative decision:

“This is sort of my personal thing and maybe less about a larger connection. But Joker killed Robin and Batman basically smashes his teeth out and locks him up in Arkham Asylum.

Sounds cool and a nice tribute to A Death in the Family, right? At the same time, keep in mind that when we’re introduced to Harley Quinn in Suicide Squad, her bio says she was an accomplice in Robin’s murder.

Harley Quinn Accomplice to murder of Robin

So, here’s the weird part, when Harley, as Dr Harleen Quinzel, meets the Joker for the first time, he already has the metal grill and is in Arkham Asylum. So, then what? How can she be an accomplice to the murder if the Joker’s teeth have already been knocked out, or is the grill merely an afterthought?

We think that Ayer owes us an explanation about this, because this is one gargantuan plot hole. Suicide Squad fans deserve an answer.

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  1. R Check says:
    6 years ago

    I’m among the many comic fans who don’t understand how Ayer keeps getting superhero gigs. However, what he says in an interview doesn’t appear in the film. It’s not a “mistake” in the film, it doesn’t run counter to anything seen or said in the film, the teeth explanation is never even offered. Mexican Juggalo Joker as a whole was the mistake. No one missed that.

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  2. YOU SUCK says:
    6 years ago

    how is this the worst thing in Suicide Squad. Its not even alluded to in the film, and the joker is in like 5 minutes of it. Thanks for wasting my time in this click bait, terrible, lazy article.

    Reply
  3. Jeff says:
    6 years ago

    Simple. Dental work. Implants or dentures with a grill on them later on after the teeth are knocked out. It isn’t rocket science.

    Reply
  4. ryan becker says:
    6 years ago

    who is to say this was jokers first trip to arkham at the hands of the bat? routinely his enemies are dropped and escape, makes sense she would fall in love after multiple sessions. they escaped and killed robin together, accomplice is vague. also the movie was a dumpster fire when it could have been great. leto pulled it off well. would have like eastwood as grayson undercover for bruce just to set up the newly announced nightwing. picture a short scene of Bruce at his computer in the cave and grayson givin him short sitrep on the squad. short bc of a dead robin and short for disdain for one another.

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    • ryan becker says:
      6 years ago

      nicholson played the part well but was a gangster before and then just added makeup. the whole thing wad god awful. seriously what was the point of the team? they were pit together to face an enemy that didnt exist yet? croc was awful cpt boomerang (that one australian guy lol) was ok as a nutball. flagg was ok he was basically just every other character joel kinneman has ever played, joker was decent aside from the grill (if he isnt the original it fits better). the rest were on par w the climax which was sub par. the problem is characters like harley quinn and deadpool are suvh useless and over used characters and are only used B.C. dbag teens and early 20s kids are completely useless and love em. sequel needs to get scrapped and since it wont it needs to learn from this dumpster fire.

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  5. Natalie says:
    6 years ago

    Y’all I loved this movie considering I’m not a comic or animated film nerd, respectively. And I honestly don’t care about the grill. The title is a good eye catcher, but everything else is a fail. Hey everyone only talks about the joker and Harley Quinn, what about croc lol…and diablo… and that one australian guy!

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  6. Jacob Lucas says:
    6 years ago

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSYgj7dtxJg

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  7. Kalana Kasun Ranatunga says:
    6 years ago

    The bigger plot hole was having Suicide Squad formed only for it to cave on itself immediately

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    • Erik Carey says:
      6 years ago

      And slipnot die immediately as well. It’s like, what was even the point in having him in it?

      Reply
    • Kalana Kasun Ranatunga says:
      6 years ago

      One of the members goes rogue immediately, ends up destroying/enslaving half the city. Voids the entire purpose of the movie to begin with.

      Reply
    • Flash Sawyer says:
      6 years ago

      No it doesn’t? That’s not a plot hole that’s a plot!

      Reply
  8. Fitzy Burrage says:
    6 years ago

    The joker isn’t the problem. It’s the people who put him in the movie in the first place. The joker is THE villain in dc lore (shout outs to darkseid). He had no business being in this movie. They more than likely didn’t know how to make harley work without adding joker. Honestly, if they did gangster joker (2nd favorite joker archetype) in a detective driven Batman story, maybe we could have been talking different about Leto. But, that’s my opinion. And I know how the fandom feels about opinions.

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    • Josh Banken says:
      6 years ago

      He was in the last suicide squad comics though… also Leto is the gangster joker

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    • Fitzy Burrage says:
      6 years ago

      Jack Nicholson was the first (arguably best) interpretation of the gangster joker.

      Reply
    • Josh Banken says:
      6 years ago

      I agree there

      Reply
    • Billy Keener says:
      6 years ago

      I still wonder why the joker didnt lead them. One would think that he would have been the top dog in that orginization.

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    • Fitzy Burrage says:
      6 years ago

      Cause joker has never been in the suicide squads roster. He’s been an antagonist. But never a member. We’ll see this joker again in the sirens movie. I’m sure of it.

      Reply
    • Josh Banken says:
      6 years ago

      ^^^yep

      Reply
  9. Michael Hoffert Jr. says:
    6 years ago

    Is the worst mistake the awful poser Joker?

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  10. Josh Zirpoli says:
    6 years ago

    The whole movie was a worst mistake

    Reply
  11. LeeCee Pantz says:
    6 years ago

    …Other than the fact that Leto was in it?

    Reply
  12. Steven Chiem says:
    6 years ago

    It was a bad movie the cartoon on Netflix was 100x better

    Reply
  13. DarthDiggler says:
    6 years ago

    The movie was effing terrible who cares about this little issue when you have a completely botched effort?

    Reply
  14. Mitchell José Alorda Olea says:
    6 years ago

    The fact Harley wants a normal life

    Reply
  15. Preston David says:
    6 years ago

    Glad i didnt pay anything to watch it. Watching it for free was even an insult.

    Reply
  16. Preston David says:
    6 years ago

    I didnt. Id say Leto and crappy writers made it suck ass.

    Reply
  17. Angela Rodriguez says:
    6 years ago

    Did anyone really expect this to be a good film? I appreciate it for the little things, playing Margot on a loop in her suspension scene.

    Reply
    • Josh Banken says:
      6 years ago

      I actually think it is a good film

      Reply
    • Angela Rodriguez says:
      6 years ago

      I like it better than any film in it’s genre atm tbh, despite it’s “flaws”, I can sit through it, I can’t sit through many action films without wanting to claw my eyes out, so they got something right

      Reply
    • Robert Gonzales says:
      6 years ago

      It had its moments but I also think it was a good movie

      Reply
  18. Preston David says:
    6 years ago

    Leto was the worst casting they could come up with. Might as well have been Jim Carrey, with Leto’s crappy attempt at sounding like him along with the cringey purrs, i thought i was watching Ace Ventura.

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    • Mike Ryan says:
      6 years ago

      That laugh was the worst! He sounded half retarded with that cackle!

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    • Preston David says:
      6 years ago

      Yeah exactly. The defenders of Leto’s joker with the argument that it was only a few minutes. I can only imagine the torture of having to watch a full performance. Ive been told that it was a growl……..like ok if you like crap performance that’s good for you.

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    • Preston David says:
      6 years ago

      Assault on Arkham was a better take on what Suicide Squad didnt even try to do.

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    • Stojan Gjorgiev says:
      6 years ago

      his Joker reminded me of a retarded Tony Montana on crack

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    • Preston David says:
      6 years ago

      Ahahahaahah oh god that’s too funny.

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    • Stojan Gjorgiev says:
      6 years ago

      Harley was so fkn overrated as well, Slipknot’s murder was pure comedy laughed my ass out, Will Smith be Will Smith-ing as usual, last battle was, oh i don’t even wanna comment on that, bunch of bad asses started a gay bromance in the end, totally missed the point of the Suicide Squad, hot garbage that movie was

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    • Mike Ryan says:
      6 years ago

      Tony monana with pop eyes cackle

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    • Preston David says:
      6 years ago

      Woooow you’re dumb lol.

      Reply
  19. Heather Pruett says:
    6 years ago

    That’s a good one

    Reply
  20. Mike Ryan says:
    6 years ago

    Casting leto was the worst mistake….

    Reply
    • Josh Banken says:
      6 years ago

      I disagree , but I accept you’re opinion

      Reply
    • Amanda Hartman says:
      6 years ago

      I disagree as well, he is an amazing actor. Don’t hate on the actor for the writers mistakes.

      Reply
    • Josh Banken says:
      6 years ago

      I disagree

      Reply
    • Mike Ryan says:
      6 years ago

      So ive heard

      Reply
    • Josh Banken says:
      6 years ago

      Why was him casted a mistake? If I may ask

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    • Mike Ryan says:
      6 years ago

      Cuz he sucked! To flamboyant its like he tried way to hard and that laugh which is god awful, sounds like a mixture of popeye and the aliens from mars attacks! Ak ak ak ak ak

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    • Josh Banken says:
      6 years ago

      The joker is famboyant, he didn’t sound like popeye or the aliens form , when Mars attacked. I don’t get that

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    • Mike Ryan says:
      6 years ago

      I honestly cant remember a single line of his dialog either. Completely forgettable performance

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    • Mike Ryan says:
      6 years ago

      Eccentric maybe, not flamboyant

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    • Josh Banken says:
      6 years ago

      Maybe if you would give him a chance instead of judging to quickly, you would like him

      Reply
    • Mike Ryan says:
      6 years ago

      Ive seen the film 3 times and i was one of the dumb asses defending letos casting before the movie was released, i stand by my opinion….

      Reply
    • Josh Banken says:
      6 years ago

      The people that like leto , or defend him aren’t dumbasses, I stand by mine. And again I accept youres

      Reply
    • Mike Ryan says:
      6 years ago

      Dont get me wrong i like leto as an actor, requiem for a dream is one of my all time favorite movies, but i hated him as the joker

      Reply
    • Josh Banken says:
      6 years ago

      Well , nobody is making you like him but I really don’t understand the hate or dislike. But people like different things

      Reply
  21. Rawoul Sanchez says:
    6 years ago

    Jarrod Saunders (worse mistake)

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    • Fortress of Solitude says:
      6 years ago

      the worstest ever

      Reply
  22. Jenniie Carmody says:
    6 years ago

    Alyse Marie

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  23. Jöel Michael Garza says:
    6 years ago

    I have a feeling the jokers scenes were cut Bc of his poor performance
    Whats left in the film is cringe worthy
    I like the idea of Jared Leto joker there is still hope for a great performance but he needs to tweak the character a bit

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  24. Josh Banken says:
    6 years ago

    I think if they would have went with Ayers first version on Suicide squad , people wouldn’t hate or dislike so much

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  25. Josh Banken says:
    6 years ago

    Doesn’t matter, I still love the film and think it’s great.

    Reply
  26. Timothy Harriott says:
    6 years ago

    The mistake was the entire movie

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  27. John Anderson says:
    6 years ago

    Worst

    Reply
  28. Alan Sunter says:
    6 years ago

    It might not have been for the murder of Robin, but it’s more than likely that it was Batman who knocked Joker’s teeth out- just for some other reason. Maybe for the crippling of Barbara Gordon

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  29. Paulo Williams says:
    6 years ago

    Watch the animated version its 10 times better

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  30. Orlando Steward says:
    6 years ago

    There’s a lot of things missing from suicide squad that I really wish they put in the movie my problem most of all with Suicide Squad as much as I enjoy the movie there’s one flaw that this movie has and that’s Harley’s origin story wasn’t told right I feel like they should have told it the way it was told in the Animated Series because we all know that Harley and Jokers relationship was never perfect at all her relationship with the Joker was very abusive I hate how they made their relationship look all lovey dovey when it was never like that at all

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    • Alan Sunter says:
      6 years ago

      This relationship was hardly perfect considering how Joker manipulates her and tortures her with electroshock. Then telling her to go away later on.

      Reply
    • Erica Grzyminski says:
      6 years ago

      I think we saw it the way Harley saw it, in the movie.

      Reply
  31. Paulo Williams says:
    6 years ago

    I didnt miss anything it was leto

    Reply
  32. Flash Sawyer says:
    6 years ago

    That is not a gargantuan plot hole. That’s a continuity goof…Idiots.

    Reply
  33. MrMrs-Frederick Cook II says:
    6 years ago

    I figured the worst was adding Jared Letto, the joker, or trying to promote the movie based on him trying to get “in character”.

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  34. Pete Mahoney says:
    6 years ago

    Hardly a plot hole if you have to dig just to find out about the teeth in first place. The scene should have at least been in the movie or even the scene they are using the picture for (joker post helicopter crash)

    Reply
  35. Fitzy Burrage says:
    6 years ago

    And maybe Batman found this out and shattered his teeth. (How many good guys are left? How many stayed that way?)

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  36. Fitzy Burrage says:
    6 years ago

    The joker wasn’t Jason. It was tim. Harley fried his brain with electroshock, killing off certain memories (jokers own words) and maybe implanted other memories in there. Don’t forget harley has a history of manipulating the men in her life. Maybe that’s who this joker is. Tim drake. (just a theory. No need for negativity)

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    • Kris Whip says:
      6 years ago

      Batman would never leave Tim to rot in Arkham.

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    • Fitzy Burrage says:
      6 years ago

      Maybe by that time, Tim had been full gone into the psychosis. And where else would be put him? Blackgate? Once again, it’s a guess. Maybe I’m wrong.

      Reply
    • Alan Sunter says:
      6 years ago

      Yeah, that doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. Kind of undermines this Joker’s status as Batman’s archenemy if he’s just a pissed-off ex-Robin.

      Reply
    • Fitzy Burrage says:
      6 years ago

      Dude, in the cartoon, Tim was joker, Jr. In Batman beyond, he was the new joker. Why is it such a stretch to think joker, before his death, put a plan in motion? He is good for those kind of things.

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    • Owen Campbell says:
      6 years ago

      Also the scars on Joker correlate with the damages on the Robin suit, implying the Joker is that Robin. This Robin was confirmed to not be Jason, and it has Tim’s staff.

      Reply
    • Alan Sunter says:
      6 years ago

      It didn’t work on ‘The Dark Knight Strikes Again’ and it wouldn’t work here. What would it accomplish apart from pointless drama?

      Reply
    • Fitzy Burrage says:
      6 years ago

      It would work, in fact. They can fuse the canon reason Tim turned to the movie. That’s if they use their heads.

      Reply
  37. Annie Anees says:
    6 years ago

    Hamza Khalid

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  38. Dave Schmidt Jr. says:
    6 years ago

    Yea it’s called the joker

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  39. Russell Smith says:
    6 years ago

    I’ve been saying this since the day Ayer announced the story of his teeth and Damaged tattoo. This is why Ayer needs to be kept away from DC movies.

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    • Annie Anees says:
      6 years ago

      This^

      Reply
  40. Billy Keener says:
    6 years ago

    Im just glad dc did something different then Marvel. Too often marvel seems to innovate more then dc does.

    Ive always wondered if dc should emphasise the villans over the heros in their films. Its absolutely something that marvel isnt doing and might be worth a shot

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    • Strangling Jack says:
      6 years ago

      Only now is Marvel beating DC. Think of the past:
      Richard Donner Superman VS Afro Spiderman
      Tim Burton Batman VS David Hasselhoff Nick Cage
      Dark Night Series VS Jessica Alba Fantastic Four
      The difference is the birth of Marvel Studios which came about because Marvel had to save their bankruptcy. But now Marvel Comics is in control of their own franchise, whereas DC still has to deal with outside studios and too much gets lost in translation.

      On a side note, Raimi’s Spiderman series was awesome. …except for 3. 3 was a bag of poop.

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  41. Eric Lucas says:
    6 years ago

    The entire movie was a mistake. What were they thinking?

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  42. Billy Keener says:
    6 years ago

    Well its possibly a hole in letos explaination.

    Its entirely possible that Harley used her status as a doctor to help the joker hide robins death.

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  43. Andrew Melendez says:
    6 years ago

    Oh you mean the ENTIRE length of his gargantuan waste of time?

    Reply
  44. Daniel Nelson says:
    6 years ago

    Waaahhhh, wah wah wah wah waahhh, waaaahhhhh waaahhhhh, who cares, the movie was terrible!

    Reply
  45. Erik Carey says:
    6 years ago
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  46. Nathan Zimmerman says:
    6 years ago

    But what confuses me about this is if the grill was a nod to A death in the family Harley Quinn wouldn’t have been involved as she technically was not created until the early to mid 90,s and a death in the family was 88-89

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    • Kevin Lee Myers says:
      6 years ago

      Comics. Movies. Not the same.

      Reply
    • Nathan Zimmerman says:
      6 years ago

      No they are not but don’t make the comment that a particularly aspect stems from a certain story that was published 5-6 years before a certain character was created and call it a plot hole

      Reply
      • Strangling Jack says:
        6 years ago

        Once again,
        Comics. Movies. Not the same.

        Reply
  47. Greg James says:
    6 years ago

    I’ll stick to my one comment why was magic neccesary in a movie full of street/building level villains.

    Reply
  48. Gerry Coffman says:
    6 years ago

    I enjoyed the Batman parts……glad I didn’t pay movie price to see that 2 min

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  49. Trishtian Scheller says:
    6 years ago

    I can’t believe I just wasted 4 minutes of my life reading that. It’s really not that big of a plot hole considering the whole movie was a giant dud

    Reply
    • Greg James says:
      6 years ago

      Amen!

      Reply
    • Chenelle Ridgway says:
      6 years ago

      It took you 4 minutes to read two paragraphs?

      Reply
    • Jeremy Allred says:
      6 years ago

      4 minutes?? Did you know the average newspaper is based off of an eighth grade reading level. They like to think that the general public only has the capability of reading at an eighth grade reading level. Just a thought. 4 minutes…

      Reply
    • Nolan says:
      6 years ago

      Why did it take you 4 minutes to read that?

      Reply
    • Strangling Jack says:
      6 years ago

      I’m dyslexic and that took me a minute. Although I did stare at the picture of Morgot Robbie for 3 minutes. Damn she’s hot.

      Reply
  50. Cassandra Levia Willsi says:
    6 years ago

    Dude the whole movie was a giant plot hole.

    Reply
  51. Damian Fowler says:
    6 years ago

    She helped him in her role as Doctor at Arkham, before becoming Harley. That still makes her an accomplice. No one said the shots we saw of them together was the first time they met or the first time he was locked up.

    Reply
    • Sihle Dlamini says:
      6 years ago

      Was literally about to write that.

      Reply
  52. Gerry Coffman says:
    6 years ago

    Waller shooting her coworkers in front of Deadshot was out of character for a fed.

    Reply
  53. Steven John Park says:
    6 years ago

    Doesn’t there need to be a plot for plotholes?

    Reply
    • Ashley Dziadus says:
      6 years ago
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    • Megan Lee Shinney says:
      6 years ago
      Reply
    • David Sutton says:
      6 years ago

      I love this comment

      Reply
    • Jeff says:
      6 years ago

      There was a plot. Get freaks together to fight other freaks. That’s a plot.

      Reply
  54. Kendra Allen-Myers says:
    6 years ago

    Dean

    Reply
  55. Rich Schneider says:
    6 years ago

    Caitlin

    Reply
  56. Dev McKellips says:
    6 years ago

    Good point.

    Reply
  57. Mitchell Banks says:
    6 years ago

    That doesn’t make it a plot hole if you are asking if it was a creative decision or not.

    Reply
  58. Chris Mcintyre says:
    6 years ago

    The moment you try to ridicule someone or something as being the “worst” but instead deem it the “worse mistake”.

    Reply
  59. Dan Riffey says:
    6 years ago

    I did notice that. Huge oversight

    Reply

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