If there is one thing that Wonder Woman taught us and everyone at Warner it’s that female superheroes can flourish in Hollywood. With that in mind, excitement is beginning to build for Joss Whedon’s Batgirl film. It seems the studio is looking to cast a woman of colour to play Batgirl.
Comic book films are synonymous with rumours and Batgirl already has it’s fair share. There are rumours (described as leaks) floating around 4chan regarding DC’s next solo female comic book film. Except she won’t be so solo. According to the rumours, Robin and Black Canary will join the Batgirl debut. Furthermore, in an effort to increase diversity, Warner is looking to cast a non-white actress in the role of Batgirl.
While the leaks don’t mention any actresses linked to the role, the film has become a priority for the studio.
Joss Whedon currently has his hands full completing the Justice League movie. It will be a while before we hear any concrete news regarding Batgirl or any of the actors involved. Until then, take this with a grain of salt.
cue the racists…
Do you know ANYTHING about the D.C. Universe? If not,shut your ignorant trap
It’s racist to want to be true to the source material?
William Miller not at all but hurling racist insult…is
William Miller i bet you were mum on the ancient one,Ra’s al Ghul,Baron Mordo,The Mandarin
Tapiwa Chimalizeni idk what mum means. But I didn’t like those casting choices because they weren’t the race of the source material. Keep things true to the source.
William Miller it means to remain silent but that’s not important.
There really is no reason to get worked up over the race of fictional characters.
There is no need for some characters to be race they are.like batgirl,there’s no reason for her to be white
Well, if jk Simmons, whom is portraying detective Jim
Jordon–was black, Asian or Hispanic. Then I wouldn’t have a problem with it. I don’t want another situation like fantastic 4
William Miller that’s not why F4 sucked
It’s part of the reason. Leave the source material alone.
Nah,it sucked because of other things.race switching Susan and Johnny was the least of that movie’s problems
Dammit Barry!
Here we go….. This post is about to be POPPING all night long. All night long… All niiiiiight!
Dang it now that song is in my head
😂😂😂 It has that effect. But u already know the racist and stump supporters (not that there’s a difference) are about to attack this post for the rest of this day. Maybe into the week.
Wait for it…
Great news everyone. …next superman will be asian
There is a Chinese Superman. Don’t be alarmed.
Called it
Thing is,it’s not Clark kent.this one will be the original Batgirl.
Firstly I am a true comic fan and understand how cheesy stories at the begining matured as we get older with the comics. Themes such as Homosexuality and poediphilia would have never been published in the pages way back when. But now all aspects of our true nature of society is rife in comics. i was shocked when i read the Green Lantern story on how major Force brutally murdered Green Lantern Kyle’s girlfriend at her apartment and stuffed her broken remains into the fridge only for Kyle to discover later. This for me was too much and as i deplore violence to women in general so this struck a chord for me as totally over the top as a graphic novel event.
But now in movies characters not only get a pretty drab costume change (mainly because the original costumes can either be silly looking as with ‘Electro’ or too difficult to reproduce) but have their identities changed too. Why is it racist to want your characters to stay true to the source original as in the comics. There is no need for political correctness here as there are many comic book characters featured within the comic book pages anyway. Sometimes it works and other times it is just annoying and pointless!
It’s… news. That’s all.
It’s not broke, don’t fix it.
best idea ever
Horrible idea
why is this horrible.
I really don’t see any problem with that. Not sure what the angry reacts are for.
Is this even news?
Guess what this should be a non-issue. This article should be deleted before is breeds more negativity that doesn’t need to exist.
I think she was already, in Lego Batman.
Rumors, but if a good actress wins the role doesn’t matter her race
So Kim kardashion has a shot then..
Can she even act
It’s a joke… Fuck no she can’t act.. I’m sure she’s had more black cock then a urinal at the applo theater..
Who cares what color the woman is as long as she does a good job.
Jim Gordon is white and played by jj Simmons. It matters
Why does it matter?
So does it piss you off Nick fury was played by a black man when he is white in the comics?
Maybe she’s adopted bc Jim Gordon believes love supersedes skin color unlike some people. Bunch of racist fucks
Diversity is excellent, it’s what we need and I’m over the moon. Fuck the racists : )
Fuck the racist white nerds.
It’s racist to want to be true to the source material? Do you mind if they cast a white dude to play Luke cage then or blade?
Diversity and whitewashing are two different things. We’ve had whitewashing for decades. We don’t need more – we do need more diversity tho so bye 👋
Keegan Grey Baylie Bright
As long as they get the personality down.
Why are they changing every ginger character to a different color, do they not like redheads?
Connigher Hudson #gingerlivesmatter
My only issue with it is continuity. If it’s Barbara then Gordon’s ex should not be white. If it’s Cassandra then she wasn’t white to begin with
It looks like Cassandra is the one they are using, which makes more sense.
Neither here nor there. Whether or not the actress fits Barbara Gordon is what’s important. Although I do think it’s kind of silly to particularly seek out someone of one race or another.
Although, I must say, if they’re looking for someone other than white, it’s a shame they couldn’t just do a Cassandra Cain Batgirl movie. She’s Asian, and has always been a far better character than Barbara Gordon, IMO.
“If you don’t like it, then don’t watch it.” This is Hollywood’s mantra nowadays.
Here’s mine…
Fuck you Hollywood
Fuck you DC Comics
Fuck you Warner Brothers
And good luck have a career 20 years from now when you piss people off so bad now that they won’t follow your career anymore.
Your all dumbasses.
But bat girl is a white redhead
One of them was.
And theres a black superman based of obama. Doesnt mean lets make a movie for it
Horrible news this is gunna suck so much
I’m all for equality but this sounds just as ridiculous as saying “white people only”. Discrimination is discrimination no matter what direction it goes.
DC, much like other companies have lost originality. It is lazy to take an established character and change them to a token minority. Create new characters who do not need to ride on the coat tails of an established character.
Yeah, tell that to Marvel especially. Cause there theyhave an asian hulk, a female thor & ironman. They also have America Chavez who feels the need to say she’s lesbian in virtually every page… accroding to those who read it. I won’t read them myself, they look cancerous.
DC used to do have origibal content like Static Shock. Everyone liked him b/c he’s an original character who didn’t take on the reigns of an originally white superhero character.
I can see that..
A young girl if mix race, father white mother black..
Red wig attached to her cowl..
I can see that and I can see that being badass with the right actress.
pfff..seriously.. :(
Wait isnt Commissioner Gordon White and batgirl was his daughter?
Fuck off already
you fuck off
Why couldn’t they say African because we all are different colours
Because they’re looking at other ethnicity too than African I imagine.
because some people r brown some r night time lol
Go for it
I thought we all had color?
im a farmer half brown half white
yup!! i got brown hair, blue eyes, “white” skin and yellow teeth!!
allice Silverstone
Time too move past that junk
Also she is a bit too old
Commissioner Gordon’s adopted daughter?
well, in that Batman movie with Clooney, Batgirl was Alfreds niece, so why not just keep rebooting & rewriting the entire storyline until it’s nothing like the original comics?
I was just trying to make a legitimate link between how a white Commissioner Gordon could have a non-white daughter. Her name could even be Barbara, to really piss off all the elite purists.
Why? aren’t they any color heroes ?
don’t see the point.. but their money..
Black Panther, Cyborg, Green Lantern (originally), etc.
exactly, plenty of colored characters of awesomness in DC, in order to try and change other characters ..
oooooooh he’s mad over a fictional character.
oh you need to go back to your mom’s basement hahaha
Issac, Green Lantern was originally white (Allen Scott), the 2nd was white (Hal Jordan), THEN Jon Stewart. He was not “originally” black.
Guess they forgot about halle berry.
Finally another person that gets it
what about Halle Barry? her Catwoman role doesn’t count here, because she played Patience Phillips and not Selina Kyle.
The movie was DC’s “Catwoman”. ‘Nuff said.
And that movie was trash all around
It’s a white person that is supposed to be her why can’t they leave this crap with having to change everything to other peoples needs
I’m for equality and all but for nostalgia’s sake, not a good idea.
And what about a latina?
latinas are either white (europid) or white mixed with native american (mongoloids). in both cases it doesn’t count as being a “person of colour”
I say no, I won’t watch it.
so
Massive flop incoming
I don’t care, as long as she can do justice to the part,….Though Old Jim Gordon might have to have a serious chat with the wife.
not really, if she was black too
Why are comics doing this shit? Fkn stop it!!! Cabbages!!
Sure let’s make Superman and Batman ‘men of colour’ too ffs
Gordon needs to have a chat with his wife..
Why are people getting angry at this? I know they whitewashed Green Lantern but come on, guys.
When did they white wash green lantern
With Ryan Reynolds in 2011, I believe. I always knew Green Lantern as a superhero of color, not white.
Different Green Lantern actually. Hal Jordan (white Green Lantern) is a separate character from John Stewart (black Green Lantern).
Okay. Makes sense now.
Yeah. I didn’t understand why Reynolds was cast at first either, as I grew up watching Justice League.
Earth has had multiple Green Lanterns. John Stewart wasn’t even the first human Green Lantern introduced in the comics.
Yeah.
Actually, DC did the opposite years ago during the Civil rights movement. The original Green Lantern was white and they had him transfer his ring to a black guy.
Watch the PBS special concerning the history of comic books.
The original (Alan Scott, golden age) was white. The 2nd (Hal Jordan, silver age) was also white. Then John Stewart, the only black GL. Guy Gardner and Kyle Raynor were also white, and I believe the last guy was Latino, don’t recall his name. And correct me if I’m wrong but hasn’t there been a woman GL also?
Simon Baz is an US-american Muslim with roots in the middle east, and yes, now there’s also a female GL for Earth parallel to Simon Baz.
*sigh*
I think the important thing is it doesn’t matter unless they’re planning to right the KKK into their comics
Hollywood lost its creativity long ago, so now they just change the race and remake everything
The shock value of casting someone because of their skin tone has passed as far as I’m concerned. DC needs to worry more about putting out a quality script and cast actors and actresses who can fill the role. All I want to do is enjoy a movie and then praise or bitch at the writing and content not the racial make up of the person in the film.
Unless it calls for an overweight, no longer young, bald dude of indistinct origins to be paid millions for a short role. Then I should of course be cast.
^ this guy gets it
actually it hasn’t passed, but it’d be nice
Shock value…
Just think about that for a second…
Who is it shocking and why is it?
Says a fuck ton about our society I think.
Jamie Fister not really. It says people are people and will read their own prejudices into anything left open to interpretation.
Jamie Fister the same shock value that made people blow a gasket over a cyborg being played by a white women. Even when her file in the source material had her as a Caucasian.
I say there is gonna be a bunch of butthurt people mad that a fictional character with no reason to be white other than white being the only thing acceptable in 1950s being upset she isnt white
Damn, you hit the nail right on the head!!!!
People will be mad over the race of fictional characters regardless of their race. People just need a reason to be mad
People freaked out when the lovely Hally berry played cat woman why should this be any different!
And they’ll look like this.
You should see the comments about Roland being played by Idris for the Dark Tower.
They should make Cyclops white, or Blade.
I think all superheroes should be women, or persons of color, or have non-traditional sexual preferences! Who came up with white people being heros? How f&#king stupid is that!
Rob fisher I think they more freaked out over the fact the movie was garbage lol
I wouldn’t care if a black women played a super hero but I’m only half white so maybe I’m not the right one to say
Rob Fisher like James said Halle Berry played a good person of colour named Patience Phillips (not the white Selina Kyle), just her Catwoman part and the movie as a whole was garbage. it contained so many bad and awful writing it causes fremdschämen in me.
Because changing iconic characters like Barbara Gordon is stupid? I wouldn’t want some random white dude being thrown into the role as Blade or Al Simmons. Why should anyone but a white redhead play Batgirl unless it’s not Barbara then do the fuck as you please.
Yeah, how DARE fans be annoyed when they take liberties with well established characters?
No, we want to see them represented like they are in the books.
I, for one, don’t want to see an Irish Cassandra Cain or a Latino Blade.
You are obviously a fan of Bayformers.
Hahaha I love this argument. One why would you change the handful of actual characters of color to white. There is probably 4x the amount of white characters. Spawn is funny example to use cause I bet the casual spawn fan doesn’t even know he is black . And why should anyone else besides a white person play Barbara Gordon. One she isn’t white because she isn’t real, 2 we live in a world where there isn’t just Caucasians. If they depicted every character as they were created it would a 95% white superhero world. Sorry that isn’t appealing to anyone who isn’t white. Representation matters especially for the youth. For example I took daughter to see wonder woman and she loved it and she is now her favorite hero. I know that is largely in part to her being a female lead. I know she would relate to her even more if she had a skin tone to match hers
And the fact that the majority of superheroes are white because of racism is stupid to me but I have had to live with it
Neil did you cry tears cause jazz was Pontiac instead of a porsche..lol
Ryan that’s funny I have wanted books that represented more than just one particular group in America and once they started to try and do that I have heard nothing but abunch a crying about the status quo being changed. Don’t worry that’s why they have books from the past so you can get your fix there
Roland from the Dark Tower being played by Idris pissed people off because Roland was described repeatedly as being based and looking like The Man with No Name spaghetti westerns. Does Idris look anything like Clint Eastwood? Nope.
It doesn’t make all these tears fake though..lol
Oh yeah cyclops is white. To the guys that said he should be…poof I’m the wishmaster
The character should be depicted as they are In the books. Regardless of when the character was created. No one is stopping anyone from creating new characters in any age,color,physical build or sexual orientation. Leave the ones that are already there alone.
OK so superman should only jump and not fly because that’s how it was originally depicted in the books
I guess I just have a hard time understanding why folk get so upset and whiny over a fictional character’s skin pigmentation being altered though they’re still pretty much the same persona.
Seems petty and childish. The Dark Tower series is my favorite from SK (though I’d love to see From a Buick 8 in the theatres).
Having some representation to others isn’t a bad thing at all. Idris is a damn good actor and I’m excited to see this version of the DT series while others are free to nitpick and keep themselves from enjoying entertainment. The stories of fictional characters are altered, events changed or didn’t happen, the X-Men/Mutants and Avengers/MCU are in different universes, Superman’s father dies differently on screen each time than comic books, Batman is much older and sadistic than when he originally met Supes, Aquaman looks like a badass aquatic Tarzan, Cap America didn’t die in Civil War and the “war” was extremely watered down from the original…but seems like folk get more pissed off if, my god, someone is black that was white in the comics!
It’s one thing to change the color of their skin and another to completely change the character and story.
Take the Bourne movies, utter shit if you read any of the books. They took the character’s name and his amnesia and pissed all over the rest of the story.
You claim to be a Dark Tower fan, yet you’re ok with a character based on Clint Eastwood being a tall muscled black guy? Roland is repeatedly described as Clint in every book of the 7 book series. While I haven’t read the newest one the fact remains that Roland being a tall, skinny and weather worn white guy based directly on the man with no name makes Idris a total mismatched choice.
I’m definitely on board with all humans.
Because I’ve often paid alot of attention to facets and trends of filmmaking and its’ industry, and also having lived long enough to be familiar with the self-importance of human nature as well as its’ true greed (especially among executive types) I still reeallly think that the reason studios change so many of the characters they own from their original selves these days is NOT to freshly reinvent them, or to keep them interesting or even to *genuinely* attempt to assist in the validation of a target market audience’s identity… To do that purposefully would be a lovely and deserved gift… But maaaaybe, unfortunately, and against the good-hearted nature of the following terms, it’s a fake, faux brand of liberalism / progressivism (of which I am self-proclaimed as both) that’s been designed to make more money – By making your product a hot-button issue, it cannot be ignored; Capitalism and psychology combined. Buzz is generated about the change through media coverage and arguments over social platforms, and then ultimately more people see it because they can’t not. It’s actually really just as smart as it is heartless. I think it is heartless because instead of coming from a soulful place of caring, this method of reinventing a character is nothing more than a cold, calculated monetary capitalization on racial identity… And casts a little extra shock value upon everyday would-be moviegoers, driven by inevitability to mistake true fans – who are hoping to finally see the raw, historical, original character from their childhood – as racist jerks… Real racists are an actual problem too, of course; That issue speaks for itself. But I promise you, plenty of these top dog producers at these monster studios don’t care at all what movies are made. All they care about is MONEY, and they know their audiences can be increased and manipulated into shoveling out more dollars by pushing the right buttons, belonging to the right people. Even if you think I’m wrong, try asking yourself WHY somebody pushed the idea so far down the line. No decision so large gets that far because of ideology. It’s because of moneeeeey.
*drops mic*
Besides the fact that the character has been about for multiple year as a white female and just to magically change after countless adventures and moments to appeal to a group of people to just to make them want to see the movie and raise box office gains. As long as this new batgirl is not named barbra gordon im fine with it but to chage a cherecter that has already been established is not ok.
No … keep her like she is, besides there’s batwing. That should be good enough
fucken comics for the masses. its making for bullshit films. same with tv. irsis west is white. lets make some black roles white! fucken nightmare cover of the netyork times scandel
Why ? Just leave her the why she is . I’m usually worried when people change a character either the race or gender to appease people or to bait people into buying it . Just make a good product ( great plot , casting , story and acting ) everything will be fine .
If they make a good script and film why should it matter her color?
Kelvin Gauthier then answer your own question. If it didn’t matter you wouldn’t have chimed in.
Chris Micek what?
I didnt understand
My point there is no need to change her race . Simply make a good movie that’s why people want . This seems to me like shock value / publicity stunt to get people to watch the movie.
Kelvin Gauthier my point was if her race has no matter. Then why change it at all? The wheel needs not be reinvented. The character is great as she is. Adding the lame appeasement is merely a P.R. stunt.
I say look at some of THE ACTUAL characters. There are ones of other ethnic groups. Develop those and do it with integrity and great writing. Showcase those strong characters vs take a white character. Change her up for p.r.
Is it good for the story or is it just forced diversity? Nobody likes being pandered to.
WOW..WHAT A FUCKING SURPRISE..WHAT WILL THEY BE THINKIN OF NEXT… GROUNDBREAKING…
WHAT A CONCEPT…
meh race doesn’t matter in her back story so as long as it is the best actress for the part who cares.
Rosario Dawson
Great actress, but I don’t want her to go down like Halle Berry did in Catwoman.
Well Jason Quin, she already voiced her in Lego Batman. Albeit a campy version but she knows the character
Rosairio Dawson….jesus. she is on the wrong side of 35 already. She’d be a 40 year old batgirl by the time the movie is made in 2 years. get outta here with that nonsense.
Well when they remake this one have a white guy play the part lol
Wanted Anna Kendrick
Hallie Barry was a bad ass cat woman .
If its not broke, dont fix it. If its not Barbara then thats cool. But if it is then *no racial discrimination intended* stick to a white girl
The fact that you said no racial decrimanation s0eaks volumes
Paul Davidson it does speak volumes….it speaks to how we live in a world where if you dont preempt it with that you are called racist. dont believe it? look at all the comments here. and now thanks to you, apparently you will be implied to be. good job you.
what’s the opposite word to Whitewashing?
Fact that if you voice your opinion anymore and say how you think something shouldn’t change, ppl want to automatically call out racism. What happened to just being able to throw out an opinion? Me, I like to follow cannon unless they say hey this from another universe etc etc. I want to see the panels I read growing up come to life.
You want a black Batgirl? fine like OP said, just not Barbara Gordon. create a new hero like Miles Morales in Spiderman or how Green Lantern ring chooses the hero. I wouldnt make Black Panther white to appeal to white dudes.
The usual reaction: if J K Simmons will finally be in the DCEU as Jim Gordon, this connection might need explanation, even if that will just turn out to be one line of dialogue.. But explain.. And Barbara needs to remain a U.S.-american character.. After all this, make her any skin color or give her any ethnic background you want..
JK Simmons was in the newest JL movie trailer, so he definitely is Jim Gordon.
Thanks for the heads up.. Must’ve missed that..
The movie will suck regardless because DC can’t make a decent movie
That was true until WW
None of my friends liked it so I’m going to wait until it’s out on Redbox. I’ll take your word for it though
I gotta agree with Robert. WW was an extremely well-done movie which is a HUGE departure for DC but good nonetheless.
BvS, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, Justice League, do I have to continue..all good movies, just dumb people who don’t understand them.
They aren’t Marvel movies written for 5 year olds.
I understand them and they’re bad movies. I can’t comment on WW
Lmao i cant even dignify this with a response
Patrick has apparently already seen JL. And this is all we need to know about the validity of Patrick’s opinion.
Exactly, but we’re the dumbs ones
Wtf
I believe we all know how Catwoman turned out. That is all.
catwiman has nothing to do with race, boy you guys are idiots
“Catwoman idiot
Thanks Mark
Why not. There’s a black James Bond now
I’m okay whatever race they cast her as if the movie doesn’t suck like Batman vs Superman.
Why don’t they just look for the best woman to play the part? That’s just racist
So, what are they gonna do? Barbara Gordon adopted, have a black mother or are they gonna attempt to make Jim Gordon black like Marvel did with Nick Fury?
Did anyone complain when Sam Jackson played Nick Fury?
Yea bunch of people but we all know they were wrong.
No one complained when Halley Berry played cat woman
Everyone complained what are you talking about
😄 I sure didn’t! Lol
No
So what no one complained about 1966 cat woman at least not to my knowledge.
oh im sure there were….just didnt have internet to allow the stupidity to spread rapidly. Eartha Kitt was the best to date with Michelle Phiffer coming in a close second. RIP
I’m all for it Bradmin, I have always said Ernie Hudson would make the best Commissioner Gordon
I mean Hollywood has been hiring white people to play the parts of Egyptian Pharaoh’s since film making began so…?
white people CAN play egyptian pharaos because egyptian pharaos are basically white (because they spend almost all of their time in the shadowy insides of their palaces) compared to the ordinary egyptian worker who is totally tanned from working under the hot egyptian sun.
No they cannot. While yes, Pharaoh’s spent time in the shade, they are in fact African. No matter how long you put them in they shade they will not “become white”, they will be a fairer complexion , but by no means “white”.
well how many Egyptian actors/actresses do you know from the 1900’s. How many today? Cliff Curtis has played many different nationalities is that ok? or can he only play Maori roles lol
Someone of Egyptian/African decent should be cast in those roles. Someone who at least LOOKS the part. Especially if your aim is historical accuracy.
LOL did Michael Jackson “look the part” in Remember the Time. Looking the part can be a simple fix with makeup and CGI and a good speech coach. I get what you are saying, i do, but i just want good actors and i dont know many acting schools in Egypt. Can a sub-Saharan play pharaohs? or are they too dark lol?
this reminds me of my boy from college. He loved telling people he was African. White as paste but 4 generation African. Depending on your belief system, some might say we are all Africans, right?
Hollywood actors are far more diverse than let on in blockbuster films. Plenty of African and Egyptian actors out there to take on such roles.
Didn’t Hollywood learn their lesson with Halle Berry? The only black chick I would be OK with playing Batgirl would be Jessica Lucas who plays Tigress on Gotham, and is Olivia in Evil Dead!
Halle Berry played an original character named Patience Phillips, not Selina Kyle. and Jessica lucas, well I don’t know, she sure can play the role, but she doesn’t quite fit the character (if they wanna use Barbara Gordon)
I have never seen Halle Berry”s Catwoman for obvious reasons. So I know nothing about the movie and who she played! Jessica Lucas is the only black girl on the planet that I not only find attractive, but I think is BEAUTIFUL! She is a great actress and I think she could pull off Batgirl!
Or they could learn from Eartha Kitt
It’s fine at this point DC better try something anything I don’t know what but they need some help
Don’t care what colour she is, as long as she’s smoking hot
As long as shes a good actress and not just changing the character tto be poliitcacally correct
It depends on which bat girl. They have already established Commissioner Gordon so there could be problems if it is supposed to be Barbara Gordon. However, there’s Casandra Kane.
She’s an iconic red head!! Not racist but wtf??
Hey as long as whoever it is does the role justice i do not care just please no halley berry that was horrible.
Stupid inclusiveness is stupid
Halle berry she already played Storm and cat women
And she failed at both of those characters
Lmfao
Cousin of mine is red head and LOVES Batgirl!! She relates to her because of it!! This is BS!
Whatever
I’ll believe it when I see it
Wtf no
No a redhead should play her
How about Eddie Murphy as Rasputia/Batgirl, How YOU DOIN
Wasn’t Cassandra Cain of Asian descent and mute?
Yeah but I think they’re gonna go with Barbara Gordon’s version
shes a white lesbian. but that doesnt sell fucken seats fucken bullshit
Boo
Why? I mean, we never had an accurate Batgirl in movies (last one was blonde instead of redhead) so why exactly must she be black all of a sudden?
I hope she’s orange…
Fake tan then lol
It’s 2017 why are we still talk about that shit. Human is Human. I really dont get it. You can make a black superman if you want, if it’s a good movie i dont care.
Your response is the only one that is really spot on.
As long as its not Clark Kent i dont care.
there is already a black Superman (in an alternate universe) in the comics but it’s not Clark Kent and also not Kal-El, son of Jor-El. and even China has their own now, the “New Superman” (in the main universe Earth-Prime)
Great!🤓
Oh Jesus Christ, stahp it already!!!!!
This is the kind of BS that’ll tank her big screen debut. And what really pisses me off is you can’t object without being accused of racism. If you want a black superhero, that’s great, make one! There are a lot of great black superheroes that don’t get any love. How about we showcase Vixen? Static Shock? Steel? Mr. Terrific? John Stewart? Etc. We don’t have to change the race of an established character (or sexuality for that matter) just to feel good about ourselves. I’m not a goddamn racist for making this point, if anything I’m saying creating new/or using existing “unsung” characters furthers Black representation in pop culture media. Changing established characters just alienates the existing fan base, and often fails to carry the characters to success, see fantastic four reboot or catwoman. If you want a superhero to have a certain identity, then create one with that identity, if you can’t think of cool idea for a new character then use one who doesn’t get a lot of attention. I guarantee you’ll find far more success bringing someone unknown to light (see guardians of the galaxy) then alienating a 75 year old fan base (see new 52 earth 2 Alan Scott). 10 years ago who would’ve predicted that Green Arrow would’ve had a successful tv series, or the new found popularity of aquaman? It can be done.
Why would changing their SKIN COLOR cause any issues?
If you and others aren’t racist, you shouldn’t even shrug at tbe change
And yet you just wrote about 3 paragraphs about why this isn’t okay…
Yea okay bud.
Would you be okay with a Latino Cyborg or an Asian Blade?
The problem is black people as a whole don’t actually read comic books in large numbers so for the most part they only know about mainstream heroes.
Jamie make Cyborg white, please.
That’s wrong tons of black people read comics and why would you change cyborg or blade as they make up the small percentage of characters of color. When there is literally an over abundance of white characters. Also comic book media is a boom or bust medium. Wonder woman is one of the most iconic comic book characters and has been around since the 40s. Yet 2017 was her first time on screen and you think they are just gonna make a few black characters and then throw them in a movie…lol lol. I’m glad you aren’t in charge of the change department
Hahaha what if they made 2 Africans that’s aren’t south African white and opposed to a character with no ties to anything that defines race being changed…compare apple’s to oranges much but then again anyone up in arms about social justice obviously sucks at perspective
Why is this still an issue!?
Hahaha in your original statement you said come up with original ideas but then said you’re OK with miles and falcon becoming characters that were already established ideas. I’m confused which one is it?
Well Said! So sick of having my childhood made over into stupid SJW-PC bullshit simply because the whiners feeling slighted haven’t enough imagination to make up their own stuff. … as if any of it actually makes the world go ’round.
Wtf?…
Jamie Fister good call! i think the world is ready for a white Black Panther! or maybe Falcon could be an Irish guy?
And you know what? Blade would work much better as a white guy!
anyone who throws a fit about hollywood whitewashing but then says stuff like this is progressive is a hypocrite.
it bothers some people because you are talking about characters that where apart of their childhood. characters they grew up with, invested time and money with. who had hours long conversations about what ifs and who can do what. who felt like they where a part of that universe.
changing something about that for the sake of social justice or pandering is a slap to the face and will instantly turn off those who loved it. not because it is a change that make sense and works well (see Bette Kane, Barbara Gordon, Cassandra Cain, or Stephanie Brown) as a progression of the character and the fans will respond. force change simply for changes sake (or pandering) it will alienate them if it is well done or not.
Kenneth Ray Miles Morales and Sam Wilson are ok because they’ve earned the mantle of Spider-Man and Captain America for good reasons.
Peter Parker was dead so Miles felt it was his responsibility to pick up where Peter left off in name only. In the case of Sam Wilson who was chosen by Steve Rogers
to succeed Steve Rogers because he no longer had the super soldier serum to continue his mission as Captain America and because of what the name represents he chose to pass it on to someone who would make him proud
Jamie Fister it’s color washing.
Jamie Fister, what do you think about having Zac Efron play Cyborg. Then we’ll get Ryan Reynolds to play Blade. Would it matter then?
Mauricio Luna, Sam Wilson is the only one who’s earned anything. He’s been Cap’s number 1 for decades, he deserves the promotion. And it wasn’t because of any racial bullshit. Miles Morales is nothing but PR
And after 30+ years, Iceman loves the cock, outta nowhere
Aaron Anthony Lisle wouldn’t Ryan Reynolds as Blade just mean that Hannibal King took his place? 😂
Did you rant like this at any point where a Caucasian character played another race in anything ever? Asking for a meme …I mean friend..
Also this entire thread is full of stereotypic and hushed racism….kind of sad…
No Dustin, you’re not racist… you’re hitting this spot on. But the left wing nut jobs on here will paint you racist… but you’re just sick like everyone else who has a brain of them turning every character into a black person.
Like how every Egyptian movie since the dawn of movies such as the mummy has been casted by caucasians ? Yea…makes since…let’s make everything white so ambiguous racist are happy…
king fu movie? White people! Yay!
Native American movie? White people! Yay!
Movie based on Mesopotamia culture? White people! Yay!
African mystic lore? White people! Yay!
Let’s vote trump a second term while we are at it! Whhhooooo! Yyyeeeaa hurray for ambiguous and closet racism!
I love the argument well what if blade was white lol here’s why that’s not a valid argument black heroes are already make up a small percentage of comics every black hero u name I can name ten white ones so making a black hero white will further increase diversity gap I get white people mad but use the change black heroes to white
I don’t get it at all unless they’re simply racist. hell theyre still pissy about the middle eastern green lantern & Hispanic one…
Gl corps employs all races alien alike throughout the entire galaxy and they feel slighted because there’s a Islamic one? So all alien races is ok long as they’re not the dark complexion ones from earth 😭😂😭
Hell it’s the fact they’re looking specifically for a woman of color to play catwoman, why be specific if they’re not targeting certain races for box office $ then? If race isn’t a big deal then let’s just have the next MLK be a white guy, Pocahontas can be played by a Russian and Hitler can be an Asian actor right, since you don’t get why it’s an issue that they want a specific races for the part that doesn’t adhere to storyline. There’s no reason to deviate from the story line, that’s the point? It’s just for $ but they’re losing the actual fan base they’re making their movies for to begin with. What’s next, remaking Dances With Wolves with a Mexican playing the white guy and Natives being played by whites with a tan and some makeup since it doesn’t matter? There are comic characters of all races, so just let those races play those characters, it’s really that simple.
Joy Hunt there was a Bollywood movie where an Indian Actor played Hitler.
Aaron Anthony Lisle you’re right about Iceman. Now that was a travesty and slap to face that ultimately made me quit MARVEL.
Also the cancellation of The Fantastic Four.
Wasn’t there already an Asian woman who played as Batgirl in the comics? Cassandra Cain I believe. So in my mind as long as they stick with that story you aren’t changing the race and history of the character, now if you try to say that girl is supposed to be Barbara Gordon then I won’t be watching your movie. Race or Gender swapping a character for the sake of pandering to SJWs nearly always suck in storylines because they completely forget to actually give these characters compelling histories. Sacrificing long-time readers and fans for bandwagon jumpers who only join in a spur of the moment and have little intention of staying is the problem with making comics and movies based on them mainstream.
Here is a novel idea. If some of youfolk dont like the lack of characer create them. Oh damn did i just stare you create original characters of color? I think so. Bam!! Look at that you will be increasong the number of whatever characters gender, sexual preference, or color. I mean damn lets all piss and moan about the lack rather than create.
Philip Rice, that’s a little hypocritical. Why is it okay to change one, and not the other? When in reality, there are dozens of black heroes.
Black Lightening
New Moon
Northwind
Mr. Miracle (Shilo)
GL Jon Stewart Green Arrow Connor Hawke
Vic Stone
Bloodwynd
Dr. Mid-Nite and so on.
That’s just DC.
GL is a corps. They have dozens to choose from. Black, white, asian, etc…
GL doesn’t have to be Hal Jordan. Jon Stewart, Kyle Rayner and Guy Gardener (he sucks).
There’s scores more in D.C. ….marvel….not so much….also there’s a black batgirl already and yes Cassandra is Asian but guess what would happen if they literally put black bat/Batgirl 3/Orphan/Cassandra in a movie….
Take a wild guess 😭😂😭
Marcus Davis I totally get what you’re getting at but you have no problem with one race being not picked simply because of their skin color plain and simple. It sucks that white washing was pretty big back in the day but the answer to that is to stop washing, not continue doing the same thing but with other races. But that logic is probably just “hushed racism” to you.
I would love to see a Static Shock film (animated or live). He was a great character with a really cool power.
Jared Clay No, my thing is do it as it should be. If you’re not going to then all bets are off.
First and foremost there will be 97% comic book inaccuracies within the movie.
Just because someone spent 608 hours editing 2 second clips of a 2hr+ movie to bring imagery similar to a game or one panel doesn’t mean that percentage should go down.
The actual content matters. How many people got upset about the dark knight movie characters? None….
Bane= Hispanic
Ra’s Al’Ghul=Middle Eastern
Etc etc and how many of them were portrayed by the race of the character design?
None
Jared Clay so if someone is not going to bitch and moan about one injustice don’t bitch and moan at another.
Just accept the poor script compared to the real book and hide behind lies of it being “it’s own universe” but get upset when that universe isn’t like the other.
It’s hypocritical as fuck and stupid.
Jared Clay to sum it all up…I don’t care as long as it’s entertaining point blank period….unlike these hypocrites and racist
Id still rather just read the comic. I do agree you shouldnt have to change skin tone just be creative and create a whole new character. Id be more inclined to read about a new up and comer than just a pallet swap of the original. Also a good story line helps. Wesley Snipes will a lways be my Blade lol
Jamie Fister youre obviously a complete moron. Batgirl is commissioner gordons daughter. Gordon is white. Batgirl has always been white. Stupid to change it. Why can we not have a vixen movie? Anf if we do…its ok if we change her to white right? Fuck black panther…it should be white panther right?
Hey hey hey….. his name is Albino Panther…. keep it p.c. 😂😭😂
Nah that would be horrible lol im glad they stuck to the story on that one lol
I think they need to stop doing everything they see Marvel doing and do something right.
Gabrielle Union or Tatyana Ali should work just fine.
No offense to batgirl but shouldnt they be more worried about getting some of the bigger characters casted like manhunter or GL.
Awesome
I know she’s not as well known as Batgirl, but why not make a Vixen movie?
Because its dc
No reason for anyone to get pissed at this lol why should it matter if the actor is good? And really, it doesn’t matter since nothing about her appearance has anything to do with her origins. I’d understand if Marvel decided to cast a chinese guy to play Black Panther, since his skin color actually does have to do with his origins, but Barbara Gordon’s origin doesn’t dictate her appearance.
Nope. If they had said Catwoman, then I would have said yes, but, not Batgirl.
ONG why >_>
Without even checking I bet all the people who are mad are men.
Yeah sure just make it so James Gordon adopted her…right?? Worked in that Great Fantastic 4. SMDH movie
I am fine with it as long as Mrs. James Gordon is of the same ethnicity.
rosario dawson. nuff said
Get Halley Berry, she does great in DC movies.
Edmundo Gonzalez
Pero sería la hija de gordon u otra batgirl?
Su hija adoptiva podría ser
Diego Cervantes esa es la pregunta, si va a ser esa batgirl o no
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Guys, it’s from 4chan. None of this is true. It’s just a stupid clickbait article.
Please please please let it be Rosario Dawson!
African American bat girl? Pff that’s easy, why not make her a trans-atheist-latino, now that would be something, hahahaha but seriously, all that matters is that she is a good actress and nothing more.
I really don’t know how to feel about this. On one hand I think it’ll be cool to see more people of color in major roles but I have never liked changing of race or gender of iconic characters. Especially when both DC and Marvel have plenty of heroes of color that they can either include or make movies of based on the already proven success of Wonder Woman.
It was the same issue when one comic writer decided to make Wonder Woman bisexual. I can understand being progressive but Diana Prince being straight in a world of women who predominately were not was a huge part of her character arc.
There are plenty of WOC’s in DC comics that would be great on film with amazing stories. Hell since Marvel’s Black Panther is proving to be a success how about a Vixen film…she has already proven to work on TV.
This is just my view but hey.
Love it
im all for everybody feeling included in comics. but these charecters were dug up from small story arks people like irsis west and brought to life through time they should be making breathing life into old and new charecters. not standing on teh backs of other roles. look at that abortion of a cat woman film. with haly berry
this is not earth 1 dc universe.
this argument is getting old AF!!! you want a POC as Batgirl? cool make one up. Just like Miles Morales as Spidey. Like when Falcon became Cap A for a while. Only time people care if when you change a heroes race for pandering reasons. Making Nick Fury black or Iceman gay for example is pandering to PC sheeple. Want a black hero, create a new one, want a gay hero, create a new hero.
Actually. I thought Samuel l Jackson was cast very well for that part.
Joe Feekes he did. but Fury was “turned black” in 2001. Point of fact the black NF was actually created with SJ in mind which led to SJ getting the movie role!
That was Ultimate Nick Fury. He wasn’t turned black when he was already black to begin with.
THANK YOU!!!!
so is NF 616, marcus johnson or ultimate lol or are they calling SJ nick jr and gonna bring in David Hasselhoff soon?
NF became black in Earth-616 after the first Ultimate Universe was destroyed and fused with the Main 616 universe, white NF and black NF fused and the body of NF afterwards became black. this is a reasonable explanation of a change.
Like static shock.
I’m there! Joss Whedon knows what’s up
Then she’d better be Asian this time.
So sick of this PC bs
How much outrage would there be if people cast a white guy as Blade? Lets Go through positive black characters. Vixen, John Stewart, Blade, Storm, Cyborg, Black Panther, Static, Bumblebee, Luke Cage, Falcon. Sorry, but Barbara Gordon is a white girl with Red hair. If they were to do Cassandra Cain then i would hope to see an Asian girl play the role. Stephanie Brown? white chick blonde hair. If there is a feeling of not enough diversity out there then its time new characters were created.
What’s DC got against gingers
They going to cast a white girl as the next Blade?
Just stop it already! This diversity shit is already out of hand!!!!
whhhyyyyyy do they do this ? Just make a damn superhero that’s black… oh wait there already are many ! Black Panther and Blade to name a couple .There’s no need for this PC garbage.
as long as she is not Barbara Gordon then sure, but Barbara Gordon is a white red head.
There was a woman of color as batwoman
Please tell me why.. Freaking pc is ruining everything. She’s not black, stop pandering..
Get the fuck out!!!!!!
Why
It would have to make sense. Making nick fury black is no big deal because he was perfectly cast and you dont have to change his overall story. There were no questions when samuel l jackson was cast as fury, and rightfully so. Making the human torch black made no sense at all. He is known as the brother of sue storm, so you had to either mess around with the back-story or make sue black, and i just couldnt buy it. It just wasnt believable. All that did was make someone black just for the sake of doing it. I mean it was a shit film anyway that had worse problems, but that bit of casting did not do it any favors. I personally dont give a shit. I’m going to see a superhero movie to be entertained, not search for some sort of message by making a white character black. If that can be done and take nothing away from the story then fine. If all we’re doing is casting kevin hart to play a norse god because we want to attract a more diverse audience, then you had better be able to make sense out of casting a black comic as a scandanavian deity, because no audience will buy into it.
Chris Tucker as Loki, Redd Fox as Odin and Bernie Mac as Thor.
This would be worth watching.
Loki you big dummy! I’m comin’ to join you, friggia! Its the big one!
That and Nick Fury (of the Ultimate Universe) was created black. So, that makes sense.
Nick fury was a example of casting by how good the actor was not what the actor looked like
It’s ok as long as they dont defeat the purpose by making her a guetto comic relief ghostbuster character
why they always recasting redhead comic characters, aquaman, mary jane, james olsen, wally and iris west and now bat girl
Why…. The closest batgirl they could base it on is Cassandra Caine…. Otherwise this just seems like social justice pandering shite.
Who gives a Frenchman’s fuck?!
what color?
Savoy Chappell
I’m all about diversity, I really am. Having said that, you shouldn’t totally change the character, look and origin to play nice. There are plenty of diverse heros out there to make movies of. How about we bring those to the front lines.
Nobody wants to see a black bat woman. Just like nobody wanted watch Halle Berry as cat woman. I can hear the laughter all the way from marvel studios
How about an Asian actress to play Cassandra Cain?
Because its dc
I’m confused? Whats bad news? its Racist to imply its bad news
100% sure they don’t mean it in that sense dude xD
I’m 100% Sure they did! You don’t Bring Race into it Unless you are Racist
no racism here, just the respect of an iconic character. If Marvel decide to change Thoe into jane foster or making the new iron man an afro wowman, that’s their problems.
Joff that’s Racist what you just said!
Mic Bee no it’s not
Yes it is. To suggest a fictional Character cant be a different ethnicity is Racist. bringing race into it is Racist
its not a real life biopic
As long as she licks herself like the one that was in the old movie with Michael Keeton and as good looking as that one, doesnt matter lol.
Can you imagine being the kind of person who gets triggered by this?
Why do people care what they look like? As long as they are good in the role what else really matters?
why not just bring batwing into the dceu? why change batgirl?
No. Just……. No.
As long as the movie doesn’t suck like everyone that isn’t wonder Woman I don’t care.
Just get a girl who can act.. Don’t get a famous name person to play the part just to put movie fans in a seat .. Don’t pick somebody like Nicki Minaj for super hero shock value… Because that movie might flop worse than reboot Ghostbusters
Sure!
And Kunta Kinte can be played by an Asian transsexual!
I’m down!
fake news
Let’s make the TMNT koala bears next!
oh it’s not like the character (AKA Barbra Gordon) has been a white Red head the entire time, and yes I know about the other bat women. and I’m not butt hurt, I would just prefer an accurate portrayal of this character that is true to the comics. if anything they should be looking for an Asian actress to play Cassandra Cain’s batgirl
Oh no Cindyne Torres
Does she really need to be black?
Well, I would rather the actress be…… good instead of PC
All it is PC diversity junk
I don’t think it matters. They should be looking for the best actress they can find for the role. No matter of race or nationality
Yeah that’s fine. I don’t really think it’ll affect the story.
Absolutely not!
Here we go again
Wait so we’re gonna Fantastic 4 this huh ? IF this is connected to the DCEU.
No
make batman and robin hispanic and the joker asian while your at it….
Here we go again…
…why change a character because of this? It really doesn’t help the whole equality problem, if anything it might even add on to it…
Add how? Because you’ll have to broaden your horizons?
Nick Fury wasn’t originally black IIRC. Where was the outrage?
Nick Fury was changed in the Marvel’s Ultimate universe back in 2001, Samuel L Jackson first came onto theater in 2010 9 years later…but that was one of the few times that type of change was actually a good change, DC never once made Barbara Gordon into a black character, that’s just too risky on their part, so how do they make a black Batgirl? instead they create a new character called Cassandra Cain who ends up being the 4th Batgirl, only problems with them doing that in the DCEU though is that Barbara never even made her show as Batgirl yet so it’d be weird to immediately make her into Oracle, and broaden my horizons? Sweetheart, it’s not the fact that it’s the actor’s color that’s different, it’s the fact that they’re not sticking to the comics this way, I could care less what any new hero looks like, but don’t change the old ones, remember the latest Fantastic Four movie? I don’t see that movie getting a whole lotta praise for doing the same thing (in my honest opinion it was ab OKAY movie, but not alot of people share the same opinion on that) I say add, because when you change a character’s race, you’re getting rid of the old one, everyone would go crazy if Black Panther became a white male, it’s just too risky of a move that will most likely be hated in the end, again, it has nothing to do with race, but it has all to do with change
Meh… so long as it’s not Barbara Gordon.
Why?
I mean, unless Barbara Gordon is adopted in this timeline, she can’t be anything other than white. She could be mixed, Jim being her father and then having a black/latino/whatever, mother. But other than that, it’s biologically impossible for her to be anything but white. Especially since we know J.K Simmons is Jim Gordon, and he’s white. I suppose they could just say “screw science” but critics and audiences both will see that something’s up. It’d be much safer and much easier for them to just stick with comic accuracy.
Hell no stop changing the color of the roles
Well if it’s Cassandra Cain, then ok.
Next up…they will remake Shaft a white guy
Is it hard to make new characters of different races?
As long as she’s also a transgender albino..
If they make it a good story and it makes sense cool. If its just so they can say “look a black Batgirl…aren’t we super progressive?” then they can fuck off.
Well, Batman’s favorite color IS black…
So instead of putting the characters of color in DC forward, they’d rather change the existing ones. They announce it because they want to be praised for their decision. They really should get the best actress for the part. They did get Rosario Dawson to play Batgirl in the Lego Batman movie. But it’s like they forgot about Vixen, John Stewart, Jaime Reyes, and Mr. Terrific. This feels shady as shit to me.
How about…try to make a good movie first
They’re going to do whatever they want I just hope it’s a really good actress that could pull it off and Batgirl is not Barbara Gordon.
No Halle Berry please
And the pandering continues,stick to the source material please,stop the PC BS!
I would be willing to see what an Asian or Latina could do with the role.
If they follow the Wonder Woman movie’s example, then it might JUST be a good movie. If they give the rights to another movie studio, it might be awesome! As far as who they cast, just so that they do a good job with the character, her melanin count doesn’t matter.
No,she is related to Gordon, assuming they go with Barbara. Enough with this pc shit. How did black Human Torch work out?
Hey it worked for The lego Batman movie, just give her the Red hair
No keep her the same as we all grew up watching
I haven’t seen commisioner Gordon now that you mention Batgirl
i´m ok with everything Hollywood want to do (i just don’t go see the movie and that’s it) BUt if the fuckers make Blade a white person, then that would be the point when ill grab my shotgun and… ohhh forgot that someone is watching, always watching
They should leave shit alone
Noooooooo it needs to be barbra Gordon
WHY DO THEY HATE REDHEADS?!
Doesn’t DC have like a million Earths in some sort of multiverse? Tap into that writer’s convinience. Batgirl doesn’t even have to be a girl. Or human. Or animal. Maybe a vegetable this go? Perhaps mineral?
there’s an alternate DC Earth with anthropomorphic animals. but they can’t do that if this Batgirl exists in the DCCU, and even more so if they decide to make her Barbara Gordon under the cowl.
But it’s Batwomen… not planet of the Apes….
Wait! 4Chan is still a thing?
A black Batgirl, ok fine whatever, but explain the lack of red hair that Batgirl in the books have and the movie one doesn’t. Unless this is going to be another one of those DC movies like “Catwoman” was. Same name sorta the same story but totally way off any continuity of any type.
Won’t watch it regardless.
Halle Berry in black spandex, I dig it.
Well…this guy is gonna be Gordon in the DCEU. So, unless she’s not Barbara…no.