Comic Book movies have a history of changing characters’ races and ethnicities in movies and TV shows. The casting of black actors like Michael B. Jordan as The Human Torch in Fantastic Four and Laurence Fishburne as Perry White in Man of Steel has caused some controversy. The question on everyone’s mind is whether or not a change of race changes the character. For example, is Superman/Clark Kent still the same character if he was played by Will Smith? Or can Michael J White replace Hugh Jackman as Wolverine? Alijah Villian has done some photoshopping and given us a good of idea of what we could expect had the casting been different.
Source: alijahvillian.com
While I’m loathe to replace any of the Avengers, since they all feel as if they were grown for the roles they play, I rather like the idea of Donald Glover for Spiderman, or the other actors I don’t know for Superman and Batman. I really dislike the current Superman, and Batman who is the darkest edgiest motherfucker on this side of dark and edgy town makes me want to puke.
But mostly I want Spiderman to enter the MCU being played by Donald Glover.
Idris Elba is truly the only man alive who could pull off Batman tho, check out his jaw and voice.
I think Donald Glover would make a great Miles Morales…
Hey, here’s an even better idea: Why not create new, relevant black superheroes kids can look up to, instead of just appropriating the current material? We need more Black Panthers, Luke Cages and John Stewarts.
Always thought Wesley Sniped would have been a great Bruce/Batman.
Would love a John Henry Irons movie!
A proper one, that Steele movie starring Shaq was so so so bad!
No, stop doing these things to be Politically correct. Just create a new hero.
stop being a fucking racist
Dipshit it’s not being racist those characters weren’t created as such, create new heroes with they own backstories and histories that fit their race and ethnicity, simple as that seems like the first to call someone racist are usually racist themselves
This is exactly what I am talking about. How am i being a racist exactly?? They don’t need to change our beloved characters, why can’t they just create new ones. There are great black super heroes like mentioned above, Luke Cage, Black Panther, Blade. You are the one who is making stupid remarks. Go fucking play elsewhere.
because a fictional character comes with a certain colour? You’re the fucking dipshit, you racist piece of shit.
“There are great black super heroes like mentioned above, Luke Cage, Black Panther, Blade.” That’s like saying you have black friends. Delete yourself off the internet because you’re a dumb fuck
Jeremiah Greenawalt Thank you, I was busy typing myself but trying to keep myself from losing my shit. He fits the typical PC stereotype shouting racist before even thinking.
So can we get a white Luke Cage, Blade or White Panther?
It’s absurd to me to think of these characters as white, so why am I a racist if I think that making PC characters of traditionally white superheroes is ridiculous. I think the same thing every time a movie or show from my childhood (like Annie for example) needs a “black” version.
Why should any ethnicity anywhere get sloppy seconds? Why can’t people just come up with something new and relevant for young (or old) to aspire to or admire? Personally I would find it insulting as a race if all media could come up with was a rehashed version of some white character made to match me.
Melissa Jordan Thank You, it speaks volumes on Steve’s character as to his one way outlook on life and the way he speaks.
How is wanting new, original, relevant black heroes him being racist?
I vote “No” on this because its stupid… Why mess with the history and upbringing of a character? If they want to create a black Superman then why not just say he was a stowaway when Planet Krypton was destroyed? That way they still have the black Superman but he has his own story… Problem solved
No for fuck sake
oh look! A white guy being triggered that his precious characters might be another colour? FUCK OFF
Nice job being a screaming autist adding nothing to the conversation Steve
No….. I’m all for a lil color in Hollywood, but just no. I was even for Johnny Storm being black bcuz it couldn’t get any worse, but Superman has BEEN set in stone and it’s a character they never really got wrong (except Dean Cain). Don’t do this.
No!
Henry Price
Soo.. By creating this.. What r you trying to say ?? Is it that.. Black people are still neglected ??
Oh for the love of God!!!
How about the life story of the Black Superman: Muhammad Ali.
Lol that photoshop skill tho
Most of these characters already exist if you read comic books. Val-Zod Kalel / Calvin Ellis (Superman), (Batwing)David Zavimbe and Luke Fox. Because DC Comics doesn’t give a damn about their black comic book fans. Miles Morales Spider-Man is a successful Legacy character. And I still read Peter Parker of The Amazing Spider-Man. Even Stan Lee approves of Miles Morales so why are these white fans hating this idea. Fuck the world, because us black People can’t never be anything.
No!
I have never looked more forward to Idris Alba playing a Super Hero because he already is one in my eyes
And those who say no is exactly what is wrong with this world but hay… Get your petty ass out of the olden days and catch up to the one color ideas!
Yes they could do it but the really question is should they? There certainly aren’t enough mainstream superheroes of colour but that doesn’t mean changing the ethnicity of classic characters will fill that gap. We need to create more new, diverse characters that kids (or adults) can look up to and identify with.
But they should definitely put Donald Glover as Miles Morales into one of the upcoming Spider-Man movies before he gets too old!!
N E V E R
Hell No
And stop saying black people, to me they are just people. And forcing their faces onto iconic superheroes will not solve the underlying issues.
So hands up who here knows who John Stewart is? Now, how about letting go of the idris elba as batman idea and have him helm a proper green lantern movie as John Stewart, who in my eyes has always been a way more interesting and complex character than Hal Jordan. It’s that or get Batman rebooted….again.
Plenty of black heroes to make movies about.
Samuel L Jackson & Denzel Washington would be an awesome Superman>We all need to respect each other>knowbody had issues when Perry White was Africa American played by Laurence Fishbourne in both NEW Superman movie’s
fuck no. so many black characters to make a movie. why would any body want to change the color or the gender. just make a new one.
Or Ryan Gosling as Black Panther
Is the world ready for a white black panther? A white luke cage? A white Mr. Terrific? A white Blade? Sorry, is that racist?
Why though?? Why a “black” Superman?? I would love some original black superheroes maybe with powers similar to Superman.
WWWHHHHYYYYYY???!!!!
Hey wait…an Indian Batman. That’ll work.
No… absolutely NO to Idris being up under batman…. Just NO.
I present you, a black superman. Whats the problem?
Hes modeled after Obama and is president of the us. Jokes son
Spiro Varis
I just came here to read the racism.
Oh my word!! Does it make a difference if your superhero has black or white skin! Its like judging a book by its cover! Its what inside which matters!
Lmao angry white people make my mornings
No
Bound to happen
Earth 2 already has one.
Is this not race approbation?
By this are you not saying that black people are unable to come up with their own fictional character ?
Are you saying they are not smart enough to do so ?
Why do you feel the need to show your racism and hatred of the black people?
The guy who they put up as superman, isn’t he the one who could adapt to anything in the xmen first class movie?
Why? Why is this necessary? What point are you trying to make? Why has everything got to be some political bullshit?
Give me one reason. Just one. Just one reason why changing an established character makes more sense than writing a film for an already black character.
Changing an established character to further your agenda is fucking idiotic. There a so many black heroes to make a movie about. How about a Static Shock movie. Or a better Green Lantern film.
Raceswapping is lazy writing and it makes you look like a joke. If you want “representation” use one of the black heroes that already exists.
Sam Wilson, John Stewart and Miles Morales already a successful Legacy Hero.
Val-Zod Superman and Batwing Luke Fox still in comics.
It’s just a role, a fictional character. Anyone complaining about being true to the canon is full of shit and should just stick to reading dated material. End rant.
Yeah. That’s exactly my point. The proposed heros shown in this article are just race swapped versions of established heroes. The Green Lantern poster even says Hal Jordan on it for crying out loud. If they want a black Green Lantern they should use Stewart. I’d have nothing against a black Superman, provided they call him Val-Zod and not Kal-El.
I’m not saying don’t have black heroes. I’m saying use heroes that are already black. Use the Legacy Heroes. Or write a new character. But having a character just be “X superhero” but black is lazy writing.
Who cares
Why not
It’s just a role, a fictional character. Anyone complaining about being true to the canon is full of shit and should just stick to reading dated material. End rant.
There are strong black heroes that could and should be represented. The color of the characters skin really doesn’t make a difference, and it shouldn’t matter.
Some characters it’s possible to change the color of the skin and it doesn’t make a difference. Other times, it doesn’t make any logical sense for the character (Wonder Woman, Black Widow, etc). The reason most people have a problem with race switching characters isn’t because people are racist, it’s because fans don’t like seeing the characters they’ve grown up with changed for political motives. Especially when it’s perfectly possible to create new characters and stories. Ultimately we’re all human and as Americans we shouldn’t let the man made concept of “race” divide us.
I don’t care who plays superman as long as its not the steaming pile of garbage the last few movies were.
We already have a black superman! his name is Jefferson Reed, in the hood they call him METEOR MAN!!!
Ya and let’s make the black panther fuckin Hispanic or Asian.
Idris Elba as Batman!!!❤
Nope
Take that Will Smith Off the Table!! Now!!… All Others Are VERY Doable!!
I always wanted to see Denzel Washington play Batman when he was in his prime.
Leave the classics alone…have more minority superheros, just develope new ones….
Haha white people would never allow that
My favorite ones were catwoman and storm…
Earth 2 Society has a black Superman.
Does this mean we will finally get to see Vall-Zod?
Leave Superman alone
Here we go again…
Naaaa….
Here we go..
Ugh. Superman has been white for 70 some years. Don’t change him for equality!
This question is only presented to start a fight.
Well there has been a black Human touch, and a non blond aquaman why not a black super man?
Fathi Ilyas Mohamed
Naah they shouldn’t do that. I m3an it is not aleays about race unno
Idris Elba doesn’t even care to be involved in superhero movies. If I remember correctly he hated being Heimdal because of green screen acting. I doubt that would ever happen.
Fans need to come together like this perfect example on Spider-Man. Because both versions are Spider-Man
Some of these heroes already have a black portrayal. Spider-Man has Miles Morales and Green Lantern has John Stewart. They could make it to the big screen.
There are true black superheroes, stop trying to switch all the characters up
It’s been done.
Hell no
No shit its whack. Horrible to imagine specially in case of batman superman and wolverine. And black james bond really..?? I cant stand even the characters of wally west and iris west from flash on cw there is whole lotta difference between comics to movies. Race changing isn’t a good idea i guess. I hate that.. my opinion.
We’ve already had a black cat woman very recently, but skin color was not the real issue with that movie.
Or just to ROYALLY get the whole world to hate DC comics ……let’s make superman Asian and Aquaman a skinny hill Billy …..stop changing the comics ,people wanna see the comics brought to life and not flipped upside down so that no-one knows who their favorite characters are anymore
Calvin Ellis Earth 23 Multiverse he’s actually the president of the United States. Born Kal-El son of Jor-El and mother Lara of the house of El
Leave the superheroes as they are…create new ones!
While you’re at it, Let’s remake Martin Luther King movie with a white guy playing Martin Luther King.
SMF
Why?
Why not?
I’ll be fine with this if they make black dynamite white.
Why change Original characters. Why not just create an original character? It’s like saying is the world ready for a male wonder woman. Why she was written as female not a male. Just sounds like someone isn’t creative and just wants to start some controversy.
#forceddiversity
Nope nope nope,
If you want diversity then make new heros with there own content.. stop changing what already is. All it does it create outrage and loss of the already existing fan base.
Create new heros and build new fans…
Makes you wonder why there’s so many white characters though we are a bit obsessed with our own white race
Marcel Bales
Maybe so, but thise heros were created by White artists. Most imaginatiers based their Ideas off themselves.
If Black people want Heros, they should make them.
maybe cause they are mostly created by white people? Like saying why are they are so many asians in manga..
Or maybe most of the icon heroes were created when segregation was still a thing and that’s why there aren’t many POC in lead roles for major heroes. That said, I don’t want a black superman. I want a superman who can camouflage his alienness. I want him to be a legit alien, not another declaration of human superiority in the universe. He’s a freaking alien, let’s see some imagination!
Stephanie Harris
You have a good point, but it doesn’t stand as tall when there are Super Heros like the X-Men representing Gays, or Luke Cage representing Blacks.
These were during times of segregation to rebel against it. They were Original.
Fernando I guess your kinda right about that but then they start to draw them with white faces 🤔 looking Caucasian
Actually I think there have been black artists who creates black heroes but they went largely unnoticed in white dominated society. I think the time is coming when whites are the minorities in America and then the tables will turn. What we are witnessing with the contemporary outcry against whitewashing is the table already beginning to turn. It’s the evolution of society.
What is more appealing to the human psyche? The white rabbit or the black rabbit? Which one gets taken home from the pet store first?
Ritchie perhaps but since originality is dead I doubt they will create new heroes and that was the point.
THANK YOU!
To bad your gonna have to suck it up there are already over 5 black supermen.
And a Chinese one too, you behind the time.
Pretty sure in an alternate universe there is a black Superman
Would that make him evilman though?
At least 2 alternate Earths have a black Superman. Earth 23 (Obama Supes) is one of the coolest incarnations yet
Yeah so it’s cool just keep them in the comics for now until they do a movie where maybe they get transported to that world
Not sure black people aren’t that bothered but wouldn’t you then get the hardcore coming out twitch shit like “now black people are being portrayed as aliens!” Lol
Not black, but asian shemale would contribute much more to diversity.
Asian, shemale, obese, vegan, gluten intolerant, pan-sexual demi-gender-queer, handicapped and otherkin.
I’m all for it if black panther is played by a white blue eyed blonde haired guy
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I saw butthurt when the ironfist was changed from white to white XD and when they want to change superman from white to black its ok. Thats Hipocrisy
….. Black Widow (White Panther?), i feel a character name change coming :)
Ha! Clever
Icon .blue marvel.earth 2 superman.. theres been one since the 90’s
everything gotta be about race or sexuality these days, uhhg
Idris Elba as James Bond would be perfect. A New twist for the bond movies.
“Is the world ready..” nigga he ain’t gonna come out of the screen
Static, Icon, black panther, John GL Stewart, falcon, I would eat up all those movies. Why is there a need to change an already existing character?
Because they are lazy.
Would love to see a Static Shock movie, so long as it’s true to the original content.
Taylor Kaercher, I’m with you. I would eat that up.
That is very true. We all remember what happened with Steel.
Why not? Comic book stories are set in multiverses.
Val Zod is black, y’know
Hahahaha bruh there is a black and Chinese Superman.
Nobody has a problem with multi-verses. Nobody has a problem with someone taking up the mantle of the flash, Iron Man, Superman. Nobody cares.
Clark Kent aka Kal el of krypton is a particular character mucking about with that character, as in behold all these standard superheroes reimagined as black, annoys people.
For example. Green Lantern becoming black, Big whoop, it’s a different character using the name.
I don’t care if the flash winds up being a bisexual half Asian half Latina female as long as that is someone who is picking up Barry Allen’s mantle and is therefore a different character.
That is a distinctly different thing from hey we just rewrote this character to change these fundamental things about it.
This is annoying on two different fonts. The first front is that it says hey we don’t think people will buy into or like a female, minority, LGBT character unless we tack its popularity onto a pre-existing character. It’s lazy. It suggests that you can’t write a good character with those traits.
The other is that it does fundamentally alter a pre-existing, often beloved character.
Now the ironic part is that the same people who insist that it doesn’t matter, race isn’t an important part of the character so it’s OK that we change it are the same people insisting that it’s very important that we change the racial identity of the character.
Green Lantern didn’t “become black” they created John Stewart. An excellent character who is also a part of the Green Lantern corps.
Shortage of Black superheroes? Then create more black superheroes. Don’t take a character with 50+ years of comics and say their skin color needs to be changed in order to appease the masses.
OK. The Green Lantern representing the system was black. Hal Jordan didn’t change. That was part of the point of my post.
That would be why the next sentence was “a different character using the same name.”
I agree that new characters should just be created. Just rehashing the same old characters with different colors and ethnic backgrounds is creative laziness. I love these characters and grew up with them but Batman will eventually get stale regardless of if he is white, black, asian, homo, or sasquatch.
Just give me my Multiversity animated movie
Cultural appropriation
No no no no
What about a white black panther
we had a white green lantern. and i t was a mistake..
What about a white cyborg
a chinese batman
Have Bruce Jenner play catperson
haha robin is now aboriginal and wears a pink mask we dont robins sex we cant ashume it
4fs go facepalm yourself with a chair
Oh Jesus Christ, give it a rest Hollywood
Let’s see peoples reaction if they made him green. Like all the rest of the aliens.
I see no reason for ‘reimagining’ everything. The black community is – tada – part of the human community. So why do we have to ‘reinvent’ to include? Just make good comics / movies, etc. and we’ll all be fine.
In film we’ve already had the black superman and I remember something of one when superman got killed off in the comics about 25 years ago by doomsday . 4 or 5 supermen popped up to fill his space . Sure there are others who remember this happening
That….was not a SUPERMAN…a lame excuse for John Henry Irons which in the comics became Steel. A human man that devoted his life to making difference. He never said he was Superman. Just wore the shield in respect for the man who saved his life. But that movie….was a “thumb tack cover glove” being worn by Stephen Hawkins and giving free hand jobs to comic book fans. Lame. 😂
And yes…I remember. ..I own every issue. Been a comic fan since I was 7. lol. But that movie….is and was a Crap shoot.
Glad that you remember it clearer than I do ! brilliant reply and amusing too with the weird hand job stuff at the end 😂
Lol… I hated that movie. It was garbage. Shaq was big then and couldn’t act out of a wet paper bag. Smh. This and that craptastic Catwoman movie is garbage. Not because of the actors color…but because the writing and effects was shit.
Oh they are both gigantic bags of shit as films ! I don’t think they actually understand that we aren’t bothered about the actors colour we just want the films to stay true to the original material . Hell I’d be happy for more variety in super and anti heroes as long as it’s not shit 😊
Sure why not? They changes him up big time in the comic books why not something new? Come on people why reboot the same shit over and over ? Why not broaden your narrow pragmatic minds just a little bit for something new?
We can’t help it the comic writers are white. It is what it is.
Idc what color you are, don’t fuck it up.
Hey let’s just make another click bait post..
Ffa
He’s called the blue marvel. Make that movie.
Is world ready for coloring?
Isn’t the Super man of earth 2 black? Idris Ilba as Superman and Barack Obama as Jor-El
I’m ready for my Spider man to be miles morales
Personally I don’t care, as long as the actor portraying the character does a half decent job ☺️
The anti-white racism is already too deep in Hollywood. Liberal Hollywood has an anti-white, anti-heterosexual, anti-male, anti-conservative, and anti-Christian agenda. Liberals want to remove all white, heterosexual men from leading roles, except villains of course. Hollywood also promotes interracial and/or homosexual relationships as far more common than single race heterosexual relationships.
Not true, but okay. Let me guess… Trump supporter?
Yes true, not okay. Let me guess… Blind imbecile?
Chris I’m not a trump supporter but this is sadly true.
Agendas are being pushed
Probably a Trump supporter from Alabama or some shit who lives in a trailer and doesn’t go to the movies. If he did, he’d realize that there is nothing anti-white about Hollywood. Stupid redneck
Can you give an example of these movies? Because I haven’t seen anything of that magnitude to come to that wild conclusion. Sounds like people are easily fooled by clickbait articles and get stirred up into thinking it’s real, lol.
Soooooo I’ll take that as a no to black superman?
I think he’s still on the fence
For every gay “couple” in a movie, there are a thousand “straight’ ones… what the hell are you talking about?
I like how the first couple of answers to your comment are just insults. That’s how the majority of the left operate though. Say something they don’t like, and they just call you names and make autistic screeching sounds.
Eat a dick George Rogers. You’re probably from Oregon in your moms basement sucking off dudes while watching the Cosby show…
So tolerance is anti-white? And most movies the lead is white, but that doesn’t matter, what matters is the type of character the writer intended on how his or her character should be and more adequate for the story.
Shit, why not? If Hollywood, in all their infinite wisdom is going to pull the “you better be diverse and inclusive” card with remaking everything in that image, I fully expect to see a Roots remake staring Matthew McConaughey as Kunta, and Paul Reubens as Toby (because who doesn’t want to see Pee-Wee get his ass beat)
Get the fuck on it Hollywood, or you’re nothing but a bunch of racists!
Lol what?? Speak for yourself.
Well there was that all black Annie but okay.
Actually, I disagree with this sentiment, but I respect your right to that opinion. Hollywood goes with what sells, and it’s disgusting, example, white washing the Dr.Strange Ancient One because they didn’t want to alienate a Chinese audience. The only ones who are blatantly trying to force an extreme left agenda, would be, as a mainstream example , Paul Feig, director and producer for 2016’s Ghostbusters.
So many liberal trolls and so few real people….. It’s funny when the most offended and insulting responses come from “people” with a Facebook page consisting of a handful of pics with no substance. Hahaha!
If you say so. No matter what facts we have to contradict you, you’ll plug your ears and sing “la la la” (probably loudly and off key). I love straight white guys who play victim or cry about being a minority- what’s wrong with that… unless you treat minorities differently.
Anti-white?? Like casting Tilda as an Asian sorceress into a movie based in nepal with no nepalese or Indian people even in the background in Dr strange or casting scarlet johansson as an Asian cyborg…surrrrrrreee bruhhh
So, that’s a “no” on providing examples of this liberal agenda against us straight white men? I mean, should be pretty easy if you’re so sure of it.
But yet Hollywood just casted a white women to play the role of a Japanese woman in Ghost in the Shell. And liberal Hollywood barely recognizes black actors.
I don’t think you watch movies…
Chris is a troll, don’t feed him. Opinions are like assholes, after all…
Landon Elliott Love the last name, good solid name, and actually, anime characters although created in an Asian country, doesn’t necessarily depict an Asian character. Also this – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DhoBuU1Dtc then again, they may have been prompted, it seems Japanese people are atleast alright with it.
Lmao white people don’t know what racism feel like please stfu
Dafuq kinda bs did I just read?
First) I have a life outside of Facebook. Second) Paul, you have described liberal behavior. I have never “played victim” nor claimed to be a minority. I treat all people fairly regardless of race, gender, social status, etc. Your assumptions show your bias. Third) Mackenzie, casting established white characters with black actors; Nick Fury, Heimdall, Human Torch, Kingpin, Perry White, Electro, Deadshot, etc. . There are many well established minority characters that should have their own shows, instead of ruining another character for PC purposes. Fourth) Christopher, the bias I refer to is evidenced in general advertising and storylines by replacing heterosexual white males with lesbian and/or minority partners and portraying more gay white males than statistically present in reality. Fifth) Jaron, your response demonstrates your racist outlook perfectly. Many of the most extreme racists in America are black with a huge anti-white agenda. Sixth) Nicholas, I stated my opinion and couldn’t care less about yours, but I do agree that we are all entitled to have an opinion. Have a wonderful evening!
Was the world ready for a black president: yes. Did electing a black president solve racism: no. Did race relations in the US become worse over the duration of that presidency? Do we need a black superman?
Well, as for superman, green lantern, spider-man and the flash, they have already been black in the comicbooks.
But some of them would just not work because of context and how society is, or even their stories play out.
I don’t know about “not working” because when comic books are essentially about suspension of disbelief. I think it is rare that context would require a superhero to be of a certain race.
Very few of the comics I read dealt with race as an issue unless it was a “special” comic. Maybe societal issues, but a black/Asian hero never mattered and that was nice.
Idris Elba as Bond would kick ass.
This is ridiculous, and racist. Stop with this crap!
¿Como para qué? Sería estúpido. En los cómics sabemos que existe un Superman negro, pero no es tan conocido como el Superman “normal”. Además, si fuera por cumplir con la diversidad (étnica, sexual, etc…), recuerden que es un alien, literalmente, por lo que de seguro en EEUU ya deben circular historias en las que trump busque deportarlo.
while i did click on the link,congrats by the way, this is the same reason i wont watch the beauty and the beast movie because hollywood is changing the story to promote their politics or in my native blue collar tongue forcing it down everyones throat. not to mention if this guy would sit and think CAP cant be black due to the sad but true facts that black men where only cooks in the army at that time in history unless they are going to change the whole story line there too.
Wwwwwwait… Disney was changing the stories to allow them a wider audience long before you and I were born. That’s pushing an agenda. With LeFou, if that’s what you mean, well, they didn’t so much change the character… They just made clear something they thought was there all along, making it visible. Now let’s pretend they totally re-made Aladdin and placed the story in China, all to not depict the characters as muslims from Arabia. That’s also changing their* story, drastically, and pushing an agenda. Would you not take your family, or go see it by yourself because of it? (There are versions of Aladdin where he is actually from China)
Eh. That whole scene was less than a second and had they not made a big deal about it before the premiere NOBODY would’ve added any sexual context to the character or scene. It’s was absolutely nothing either way.
Wait what black peoples were not cooks in ww2 ever heard of operation black shield ?
Tuskeegee Airmen
Miguel Ángel Covarrubias the only thing clear is that LeFou wants to be wanted and admired like Gaston. Those triplets were fauning over how attractive he is while not even giving LeFou a passing glance, the men admired his strength and hunting abilities. The moral of most Disney films but more so in Beauty and the Beast is “Beautiful people wind up with other beautiful people and live happily ever after… less beautiful people wind up alone.” Put another way “Be attractive, don’t be unattractive.”
This is also seen in movies like “Hunchback of Notre Dame”. The priest wants Esmerelda and if he can’t have her no one will because she’ll be burnt at the stake. So Quasimodo saves her ass and she says thanks then rides off with the more attractive soldier. Quasimodo: Ringer othe bells and Crowned Prince of the FriendZone.
PS… I’m going from the animated one and the conclusions I reached when I was 9 or 10.
While we are at it, lets make a male Wonder Woman… and a autistic Batman… and a paraplegic Flash. I am all about giving anyone of the human race, regardless of the color of their skin, an iconic roll in our stories/legends/comics/etc… but changing Superman just for the sake of it is silly. We have a ton of “black” characters in the comics already, how about develop them first and foremost… have things make sense before going back and making parallel worlds with different origins etc. We already have like 3 Superman movies all showing his origins, 3-4 Batman movies showing his, about to have a 4th Spiderman origin movie (remember there is a black version of spiderman in the comics that didn’t go over well with comic people)… lets make some comic movies with lesser known stories with different characters. How about a Storm (black female) movie, or Black Panther, or Falcon, or the black version of Green Lantern, etc.
You have no idea where Batman is on the autism spectrum.
Batman isn’t Autistic, he’s just crazy.
They did the autistic Batman, it’s called the accountant and it’s pretty good.
Actually… Until recently, Aspergers was considered on the Autistic spectrum (and still should be) and Batman exhibits many of these traits… As does Tony Stark.
Stephen Hawking as the Flash. That sounds interesting.
Actually, Aspergers wasn’t removed from the spectrum, it was consolidated into it. Those who previously had an Aspie diagnosis are simply considered “high functioning autistic” now. And this is only in countries using the DSM-V diagnostic criteria. Countries other than the US still consider Aspergers a separate but related diagnosis.
Wasn’t that basically Hancock, he had all the same powers basically except for instead of being weakened by kryponite, he was weakened whenever he got close to that white lady
Meh…. As long as they don’t cast a guy playing a girl who’s really a dude…..
Only if it’s Val-Zod
NOPE !!
Do not do this
Racial pandering makes everyone lose :(
But there already are black super heroes – make THEIR movies! Fans would eat that up in a heartbeat.
No do not change Superman. Develop a new character or promote the existing black characters more prominently
Well then, I counter your question with a question of my own: is the world ready for a white man to portray Kunta Kinte?
That makes no sense and is a terrible (and racist) analogy.
You, sir, are an idiot then. It’s a perfect analogy. What would be so wrong with changing the race of this fictional character? Perhaps change his back story just enough that his African father was forced to breed with an Irish woman slave? So now Kunta is a very fair skinned black fellow with reddish hair and freckles?
There’s only one!
Wasn’t steel supposed to be a black superman he even wears the superman s
Yup… That….was not a SUPERMAN…a lame excuse for John Henry Irons which in the comics became Steel. A human man that devoted his life to making difference. He never said he was Superman. Just wore the shield in respect for the man who saved his life. But that movie….was a “thumb tack cover glove” being worn by Stephen Hawkins and giving free hand jobs to comic book fans. Lame. 😂
In that crappie version of Steel.
Yea that movie sucked ass shaq ruined that character he was cool in the superman cartoon
I’m personally waiting for LGBTQ man…which is going to be one flamboyant costume(and they will have to fit all those letters on the chest)
Kinda like The Ambiguously Gay Duo from Saturday Night Live.
Apparently lot of you do not read comics. Val Zod is the Superman on Earth 2 comic line and was pretty cool. It doesn’t say…we are gonna change Clark Kent black….Val Zod was a totally different person…just given the name. Smh…in comic books anything is possible. Too many of this world humans are totally closed minded fucking people. Does it truly matter if Superman was a squirrel??? Stupid.
I think the bigger point is that a black superhero should be that: a black superhero, not a white superhero made black for the sake of “diversity.” The changing of these superheroes isn’t actual diversity, it’s cashing in on the idea of diversity. I would personally be slightly offended by something like this if I were in those shoes. “Why can’t I have something original that’s like me? Why do I just get a repaint of an existing character?” There’s nothing wrong with a character being any color or gender, if they’re a well written character. This, to me, just sounds like, “Here, have an alternate Superman (but not the real classic, of course), now shut up about equality.” Create new characters, build them up with amazing stories, and it won’t matter what they look like under their costume. It would be REAL diversity, not just the illusion of it.
True…but my comment was towards the people commenting negative and don’t know anything about the comics and just read… what if we change Superman black. Yes…I agree…don’t change a character to please the masses…just make a new one that has his own story. Which…the story they have now with superman not being the only Kryptonian. ..it could happen.
It’s just a mantle it ain’t that serious. Ever heard of the Legend of Johnny Lingo?
An arab Punisher would be a great character.
Just make a sequel to Hancock
Must be taboo to develop something new in Hollywood, got to keep recycling old movies and put a “new spin” on it. You want diversity in superheroes? Make movies about the comics that introduced diversity into comics. Black Panther, Storm, Steel, Vixen, Bishop, Misty Knight, Black Lightning, Cyborg, Spawn, and the list just gets bigger. These characters are just being pushed to the side because racists think the only way to have a successful black superhero movie is by changing the pigment of someone’s skin in an already done movie.
they tried steel with superman it was bad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_(1997_film)
I remember this actually lol. It can be rebooted and done correctly of they feel so inclined, but the point mainly being there are plenty of superheroes for the diversity spin that Hollywood wants. Instead of rehighlighting Batman, Superman, and the other comic characters that are popular, they can start making obscure comic movies and highlight other parts of the comic industry to make them more popular.
That’s because it’s not about inclusiveness. It’s about taking everything away from white people.
Yeah I know, I’m saying that’s pointless. Taking away from others doesn’t give anything better. Start from scratch with one of the above and watch it go.
His name is STEEL and Shaq ruined superhero movies for almost a decade with that movie.
Nobody should care either way, good way to weed out the trolls and get them talking though. So embarrassing
No. The world wasn’t ready for a black Human Torch or stormtrooper, why the Hell would it be ready for a black Superman?
There is plenty of different race,greed,gender heros out there already
This is Earth 2 Superman I read about that almost a year ago
It’s called a Multiverse read a God damn book
Don’t change it just to seem fair, put the work in and earn the fan base. Just changing the skin color of an already established hero just seems lazy. Don’t ride in the laurels of others.
*on the coattails
Lol, I figure you can rest and ride laurels.
Well Calvin Ellis exists in the multi verse (African American president who is superman) he it is already there
I own black superman I don’t see the problem
Never a black Superman. There was a black Green Lantern though
No, fuck off. Yes I understand racism is real. That does not mean you need to make everything over again with a minority star. There is and has been a Superman for a long time. Guess what? He’s white. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. What next, a transgender Batman? A Muslim Captain America? Enough with this pc bullshit. You want to make a new black superhero? That’s fine, I’ll be behind it 100%, But make a NEW hero.
We all know what happened when they did this to the human torch.
Sure am .. soon as we get a white black panther
I wouldn’t care one bit.
It’d be a really good thing if a new Superman movie were actually good
Seriously! I don’t care if he is purple with fuzzy yellow polka dots…just let the movie be good for once.
yep. We haven’t had a really good one since Superman 2
The neck on Danny Glover in the Spider-Man one.
Val-Zod of earth 2 is the black super man and he’s not the only one pick up a comic people
Super Slave
If I remember correctly John Henry Irons became the Man of Steel after the death of Superman.
Storm is already black, one of the younger Flash speedsters is already black, after Steve Rodgers dies in the comics Falcon (black guy) becomes the new Captain America, and Miles Moralis is a Black/Hispanic/ Spider-Man, why not just use the ethnic characters you already have?
I forgot John Stewert the black green lantern and Blade and so many more
I honestly dont care what skin color a comic hero is. I do have a few issues…1 is the terrible photoshop work, 2 is dont just throw anyone on the character they need to fit the character overall, 3 why recreate storm when Halle Berry already did play her, 4 Thor cannot be changed because it is based off of a very real very specific religious mythology.
Heimdal was from the same mythology yet was portrayed as black as well..
You are correct and that goes back to my statement that as long as the actor is good and potrays the character properly, I have no problem. I just dont want to see Tyler Perry Presents The Justice League or Avengers. Terrible acting is just that, bad acting.
There have been reports of a black Valkyrie in the next Thor movie. The Norse gods were not multicultural or multiracial. They were the gods of the vikings. Would people be as comfortable with a Zulu deity being Asian or Scandinavian?
There are many talented actors of all races, but long established characters with an existing fan base should remain true to their origins. There are many excellent established minority characters that should be given a chance to shine. Blade was well done. Steel could be much better. War Machine, Falcon, Black Panther, and Storm paid their dues over decades of comics because they were great characters not dependent on race alone.
Fuck off.
Zacchaeus Maliq Wilson I was just talking Light Skin Batman
I still want idris to play a more prominent role other than the doorman to asgaard. If he did Batman or Green Lantern I’d love it. Idk why he’s not James Bond yet.
Zacchaeus Maliq Wilson because he’s black lol and Daniel Creg is still Bond
How about a Static movie?
There is no good reason to be against this.
I think the bigger point is that a black superhero should be that: a black superhero, not a white superhero made black for the sake of “diversity.” The changing of these superheroes isn’t actual diversity, it’s cashing in on the idea of diversity. I would personally be slightly offended by something like this if I were in those shoes. “Why can’t I have something original that’s like me? Why do I just get a repaint of an existing character?” There’s nothing wrong with a character being any color or gender, if they’re a well written character. This, to me, just sounds like, “Here, have an alternate Superman (but not the real classic, of course), now shut up about equality.” Create new characters, build them up with amazing stories, and it won’t matter what they look like under their costume. It would be REAL diversity, not just the illusion of it. There are existing superheroes that are not white males, as well, so promote them! Make big blockbuster movies about them (with good writers and directors) so that they can have their time in the limelight, and not just that hand me down limelight from another popular character’s success!
Some of you guys are getting your panties in a bunch for no reason. Writing comments that are more like novels than comments. It’s just a reimagining of the characters.. It’s not like it’s going to happen. But, let me ask you one question: Are you cool with Hugh Jackman playing Wolverine? If so, there’s a bit of a problem there. You see, Wolverine is under six feet, Hugh Jackman, over six feet. But, yeah, let’s keep bitching about reimagined black Superman. SMH!
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By scientific terms super should be black..ijs.
There is a black green lantern. And there is a black spider man.
As far as I know there’s at least one DC universe which its superman is a black dude.
What IDK is if he’s a Kal-El variant or another different kryptonian
Theres 3
Superman is the last kryptonian who just happens to be white, there are other black superheroes. Like cyborg, that green lantern, there’s material. Respect the original superheroes, create new ones. Fuck 2016’s sandy bullshit about diversity thay already exist. The people who desperatle wants a black superman dont know a thing about comics, just as bioware fucked themselves up listening to angry feminist complaining about gaming, what was the result of it? Mass Effect Andromefa and it’s ugly characters. You want a black super hero? I say reboot spawn
Calvin Ellis is a black kryptonian in the multiverse as well as sunshine superman and superman from earth d
There you go, Clark Kent is white tho what’s the point on taking him away of the DC cinematic universe if he is the original superman
A little behind the times. We need multi racial superheroes as we are finally becoming a multiracial society.
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I will accept that as a complimentary remark. LOL
It’s what we do! Lol I’m just happy, knock on wood, that the troll count is pretty low currently.
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I’ve seen a bunch of stupid one so far.
Lmfao!!!!
Krypton is often described as a cold planet under a red sun, so I guess their natural skin color would be totally different to what we know on Earth. Maybe greenish? Maybe red?
Their eyes could have a much different design as well, probably a bit bigger, and with the ability to see the infrared spectrum. Would be interesting to know the opinion of a biologist.
It’s comics, not biology.
I know, but it would be interesting which effects a red sun would have on creatures living under it, fictional or not. For example, plants would maybe not have green particles in their leaves to gain energy.
Pfft. After Ghostbusters I don’t really care who or what gets a role. Just do it proud. Ghostbusters did not do it proud. The game is the 3rd sequel IDGAF.
I thought the world has already adopted Miles Morales as Spider-man, Jon Stewart as Green Lantern, Sam Wilson as Captain America…etc..You don’t need to “blackwash” existing characters as Peter Parker or Bruce Wayne, just make new ones who can take over the legends. Or make new heroes, new stories…
I think America is ready for a good Superman……
Well if we’re not ready were racist
Probably not a character typically portrayed as white but there are plenty of black heroes out there that are ripe for the big screen.
No we are not go away…. if you want a bad ass black super hero I direct you to Hohn Stewart best of the latern corp
No.
Okay, so Ghost in Shell has a non Asian as the lead and everyone shits the bed. But then pushes this? What is the point?
It’s only okay when white characters are race-swapped.
Seems to be the case. Like I enjoyed black superman in Muliversity but I find this super hypocritical from “Geek” sites right after they threw a fit over Ghost in a Shell.
Steel? Sure its about time they fixed that shit Shaq ruined.
the only problem I see, is original lore conflict.
Otherwise, personally I’m all for flexing it up. Why not? We don’t have anything to lose but to expand the creativity. We are all human, just different shapes, sizes, and colour variants. Blood types are also different but that essentially is it.
I say bring on the variety, expand the creative universe, and enjoy.
To quote Nicholas Cage’s agent (youtube it): “Nobody wants to see an all white remake of the Color Purple!”
To quote Nicholas Cage’s agent (youtube it): “Nobody wants to see an all-white remake of The Color Purple!”
There already is a black Green Lantern… John Stewart. I would love to see a movie that focuses on him.
Only if the world is ready for a white Lando Calrissian.
There already was one… http://img.moviepostershop.com/shaft-movie-poster-1971-1020189628.jpg
What a great movie
Ffs why they have to change characters too? You want a black hero? Go for Cyborg. He seems to be really fucking badass. Why do they change heros instead of making new?
Dont get me wrong though, I loved the “Mexican Superman” from Gods and Monsters, but that one was not like that because “muh diversity”, it was an actual interesting change that DID make the character much better. (No its not because of my fucking name that Im saying that).
But okay, just make another alternative dimention with a black superman instead, fuck it. Muh diversity seems to be the only requirement for anything today.
No no no
The Wayne’s bros came up with black super heros a long time ago. Hell you been…
Why not? Hollywood already wants Thor to be a woman actress…
Well he was created by his creator white sooo. And im not racist but why change what isnt
So this guys name is steel he has powers just like superman’s but a little different as usual he was set to replace superman after “the death of superman” i don’t know the full story but just pointing out their is a black “superman” and if you want a movie make it about him
Why not?
Are black folks ready for a white SHAFT or a white Superfly? Doubt it.
In this Trump era… Maybe!
Kal-El is a fucking alien who cares. If anything bring back the black man of steel from the 90s he was smarter than supes anyway
I already like the current black super hero’s. No need to.
My son doesn’t have a white Superman so I say make the movie can’t be any worse then the the movie we have now..
Pathetic bullshit
They can’t come up with anymore original ideas so they are resorting to the race card in Hollyweird. Pandering to the racist intolerant left.
Why not Jackie Chan?
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Caleb Conn
No comment lol
I find this trend strange though I admit I’m a purist comic fan. With the number of non-Caucasian superheroes out there, why use the comic name if the movie is not gonna be the comic?
Black Superman
Female Thor
Black Johnny Storm (and his sister is now adopted? WTF?)
What’s next? an Asian as Dr Strange?
A middle eastern woman as Spider Man?
Latino Gwen/Stacy to date her?
A white Black Panther?
Magneto is no longer Polish, he’s Korean?
Xavier is now a green-skinned trans-male from another planet?
Let’s make it even wilder and add “gay”, “handicapped”, epileptic, Downs syndrome and toss teh comics in the garbage all we really want is the name anyways, that’s waht we figure will sell tickets
Unless among the Kryptnians, like in the human race exist people of different color pigmentation, why not? Any kryptonian exposed to the yellow sun of our planetary system becomes like superman really, Kal-el is not the only surviving kryptonian in the universe.
How could someone honestly be upset about this? Like look in the mirror people. We are all human. Skin tone should have zero to do with story line and character development. I hope they cast the best actor. Any skin tone is fine with me.
Nope.
It would still suck ass, like all the other DC movies.
You mean earth 2
Uh yeah, you got a few to choose from. One was named Icon, the other was named Steel. Promote them, give them movies (or in Steel’s case a remake), try to push their comics, but Clark Kent is a Caucasian kid from Kansas. That’s just who he is.
No. Everyone knows it’s ok to whitewash minority characters, but it’s not ok to colorwash white characters. There’s just not enough white characters to go around. White actors have such a tough time finding roles as it is. We don’t need more minorities stealing jobs from whites.
Sure why not?
Also, when do we get a Shaft reboot with Jason Statham as the lead? Or maybe John Cena?
Superman is the worst comic book hero!
Why mess with the greatest super hero of all time to be PC. Get over it!
Make it super person and have it be a black gender neutral person who defeats its enemies with social justice.
But is the world ready for a white Cosby Show though….
My only question is, why was Storm edited? What, do they think Halle Berry is Irish?
Is the world ready for a Muslim Superman? Japanese? Chinese? Gay? Come on, what else can we change in order to please every single ethnic group, race, sex or whatever… No one can make happy every single human group when you create something, specially if you create an art piece. When an artist make a painting, song, movie and so on, is an expression of his/her own creative spirit, is not a thing to make everyone happy, which also is impossible… Not everyone likes the “Mona Lisa”, and it is ok… And that is the grace.
Icon the black superhero from Milestone comics is kind of like Superman. They are both aliens that crash landed on earth, they have almost similar powers. But I think the reason no one talks about him is because 1. Not a lot of people know him and 2. He as a Republican
Because it’s just not who he is. It’s like making Superwoman instead. Why black? Why not Asian?
The new Fantastic 4 sucked btw. Mainly because the new characters had no chemistry. It was like a boring drama.
Just make Superman transsexual and watch everyone lose their fucking minds
Why do i hear chris rocks black jesus speech in dogma ringing in my ear
Ok let’s replace white with black…oh wait …hold on why is Black the chosen one to take over and not Asian or Hispanic or Innuit or Arab? You know what? Wouldn’t it just be better that everyone comes up with an original super hero that represents them the best? Oh wait don’t we have those already? Maybe those aren’t the most populare ones but that has more to do with demographics than white washing.
I’m not really sure how, with superman being from a separate world with alien physiology, it would make any difference at all.
What’s wrong with you people…. stop emulating everyone else and stop trying to be “appointed” to this that ANYTHING….. do it YOURSELVES for once…. damn!!!!!
I don’t need more Will Smith in anything at this point. But I’ll take more Donald
This would be good for a DC Universe animated PG-13 movie
You could just market some of the awesome superheroes who are already black like cyborg and lightning and static and john Stewart green lantern but I mean whatever
Depends. Is the world ready for Black Panther to give his title to a white guy?
nop, but the world is ready for a black super hero movie that as always been black
There is a black Superman he is from Earth 23.
Quit trying to make this crap happen Hollywood. Fans like how the comic books were written….y’all wanna see a White Panther movie? Cuz this is how you get a white panther movie…..NO
Kenneth Haskew
What’s next a white malcolm x?
We already have black superheroes :Martin Luther king, Rosa Parks Nelson Mandela and many more.
Why? Superman has always been a white dude why the fuck change it now? I could give two shits about race but seriously now?
Some of the coolest super heroes are black…. why the hell would we need to continue changing white super heroes into black ones? It’s an insult to the fans, to the creators, to the heroes themselves even.
I’ve got a question for you Hollywood, where are all the movies about black super heroes? Hu? Where are those?
The,real question is
Is The World Ready For a White Black Panther & Spawn
I dont care of they make him Inuit… just STOP CHANGING PREEXISTING CHARACTERS.
invent new ones people can enjoy! what happened to originality? all we get now are rehashes, reboots and mods. :(